Chuck wrote:
The caveat, as Erik notes for Rush Valley as well, is dust. The ground is like a giant powder puff in summer, especially during a prolonged dry spell.
The same limitation applies to Lakeside. Additionally, I recall from the papers over the last few weeks that there has been a fire out in that valley. That may increase the dust level. So, if someone has been out there recently, an update would be appreciated. The last time I was at Lakeside (last fall) there is some growing light pollution - from the NL plant to the east and the EnergySolutions nuke dump and the hazardous waste dump to the west and southwest. That being said, Lakeside is still a pretty magical place. In fall, during the drive in or out, emergency breaking for at least one or two desert rabbits and a deer herd are the norm. If you go around the date of the new Moon, the U.S. Air Force also puts on an air show - er - I mean night combat practice between F-16s. - Kurt _______________________________________________ Sent via CSolutions - http://www.csolutions.net
Kurt- I was referring to Lakeside when commenting on the dust. I drew an analogy with Rush, sorry if it didn't read that way. A fire may actually reduce the dust. If there is nothing for cattle to graze, they won't be out there disturbing the crust after admittedly infrequent rains. The UofU's southern Utah site is a terrific bit of news, but it's simply too far to go for many of us. We can't construct our lives to revolve around random clear skies or set-aside every moonless weekend in summer for astronomy- at least until we retire or our children grow up. Even grabbing the scope on a whim and heading up the canyon after work isn't an option; family members need us for other tasks or work hours carry us into the evening. A closer location is needed. Sadly, I don't have much hope anymore. Seems like efficient, effective night lighting is still the exception in most communities, rather than the norm. On 7/22/07, Kurt Fisher <fisherka@csolutions.net> wrote:
Chuck wrote:
The caveat, as Erik notes for Rush Valley as well, is dust. The ground is like a giant powder puff in summer, especially during a prolonged dry spell.
The same limitation applies to Lakeside. Additionally, I recall from the papers over the last few weeks that there has been a fire out in that valley. That may increase the dust level.
Quoting Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com>:
A fire may actually reduce the dust. If there is nothing for cattle to graze, they won't be out there disturbing the crust after admittedly infrequent rains.
Another reason to eat meat! If you think about it, it could help the Earth to cool. With less cows, there will be less methane emissions and with no cows to graze, plants will thrive. An increase in plant growth will result in less CO2 and more 02 which is beneficial to life. With more 02 for people to breath, folks will feel better and more refreshed and will likely be more productive, and we all know what being more productive will do to a society. Yes, lets lay down the bean sprouts and get back to eating beef. Beef, it's what's for dinner... Great idea Chuck! ;)
Guy, that's not the way market ecconomics works...the more beef you eat, the more cows they raise. Also grasses don't sequester CO2 long enough to make any difference. I only eat beef a couple of times a year anymore. I'm certainly no vegetarian, but red meat just isn't as appealing as it used to be, like it was when I was young-- back when I hadn't heard of triglycerides or colon cancer. Can't bring myself to type a smiley face emoticon after the word "cancer"... On 7/22/07, diveboss@xmission.com <diveboss@xmission.com> wrote:
Another reason to eat meat! If you think about it, it could help the Earth to cool. With less cows, there will be less methane emissions and with no cows to graze, plants will thrive. An increase in plant growth will result in less CO2 and more 02 which is beneficial to life. With more 02 for people to breath, folks will feel better and more refreshed and will likely be more productive, and we all know what being more productive will do to a society. Yes, lets lay down the bean sprouts and get back to eating beef. Beef, it's what's for dinner... Great idea Chuck! ;)
The answer to red meat is to cook it longer. :) Quoting Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com>:
Guy, that's not the way market ecconomics works...the more beef you eat, the more cows they raise. Also grasses don't sequester CO2 long enough to make any difference.
I only eat beef a couple of times a year anymore. I'm certainly no vegetarian, but red meat just isn't as appealing as it used to be, like it was when I was young-- back when I hadn't heard of triglycerides or colon cancer.
Can't bring myself to type a smiley face emoticon after the word "cancer"...
On 7/22/07, diveboss@xmission.com <diveboss@xmission.com> wrote:
Another reason to eat meat! If you think about it, it could help the Earth to cool. With less cows, there will be less methane emissions and with no cows to graze, plants will thrive. An increase in plant growth will result in less CO2 and more 02 which is beneficial to life. With more 02 for people to breath, folks will feel better and more refreshed and will likely be more productive, and we all know what being more productive will do to a society. Yes, lets lay down the bean sprouts and get back to eating beef. Beef, it's what's for dinner... Great idea Chuck! ;)
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Ah, but it's at it's best when red in the middle and juicy! char = nitrosemenes (SP?) = cancer risk, no matter the meat, but the fatter it is, the higher the concentration, in general. The rule of thumb is, the more flavor a food has, the worse for you it is. One of life's little inequities! :o( On 7/22/07, diveboss@xmission.com <diveboss@xmission.com> wrote:
The answer to red meat is to cook it longer. :)
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