As I enter this I've got the clock turned back 10 years in my observatory and photons from M-42/42 are falling on film in my Schmidt camera. At least I hope that's the part of the sky I'm imaging. The camera has no viewfinder so one has to set it up, take a picture, develop the picture and then see where it's pointed. And I forgot just how big a pain it is to insert the film carrier. I'll be in SLC tomorrow and will see if I can find some place to process the film (Bill C., Does Inkley's still do E-6?). If nothing else, it'll be fun to walk into a camera shop and see the clerk's reaction to being presented with a roll of film. :) Hopefully I'll find some place and will be able to pick up the finished product in time for Tuesday's SLAS meeting. For those wanting more info on Schmidt cameras: http://www.robertreeves.com/repair.htm Carpe Noctem! patrick
Patrick, I THINK you can still buy E-6 processing kits on-line, if you want to continue the nostalgia trip and play with chemicals in the bathroom sink. And if I recall correctly, E-6 has about twice as many steps as C-41. Oh, lord, here come the flashbacks! *;o)* On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com>wrote:
I'll be in SLC tomorrow and will see if I can find some place to process the film (Bill C., Does Inkley's still do E-6?).
If Bill can't do it I tink Replicolor in SLC does it, you can call - 801 328-0271 or (888)244-2222. Don't know what their prices would be. Bob -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:21 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Of photons and film Patrick, I THINK you can still buy E-6 processing kits on-line, if you want to continue the nostalgia trip and play with chemicals in the bathroom sink. And if I recall correctly, E-6 has about twice as many steps as C-41. Oh, lord, here come the flashbacks! *;o)* On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com>wrote:
I'll be in SLC tomorrow and will see if I can find some place to process the film (Bill C., Does Inkley's still do E-6?).
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Old joke, Bob, Patrick knows that I was the lab tech at Replicolor for 5 years, about 25 years ago. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Robert Taylor <robtaylor3661@comcast.net>wrote:
If Bill can't do it I tink Replicolor in SLC does it, you can call - 801 328-0271 or (888)244-2222. Don't know what their prices would be.
For this student's impressions of my first SPOC refractor class, see my blog at: http://www.slas.us Thanks, Joe
OOPS -- I copied in the SLAS site, not the site for my blog. It is: http://deseretnews.com/blogs/1,5322,10000034,00.html?bD=20090315 --- On Mon, 3/16/09, Joe Bauman <josephmbauman@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Joe Bauman <josephmbauman@yahoo.com> Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Refractor class at SPOC To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 12:15 PM For this student's impressions of my first SPOC refractor class, see my blog at: http://www.slas.us Thanks, Joe _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com
Fun blog Joe. It's going in tomorrow News. patrick On 16 Mar 2009, at 12:18, Joe Bauman wrote:
OOPS -- I copied in the SLAS site, not the site for my blog. It is:
http://deseretnews.com/blogs/1,5322,10000034,00.html?bD=20090315
Hi Friends, My latest blog is about an idea of mine to get rid of space debris. Please comment on the blog's site about whether it's a good idea or just dopey. Thanks, Joe http://deseretnews.com/blogs/1,5322,10000034,00.html?bD=20090318
A snag boat in space? Joe, the propellor's wont work... Seriously, great blog- thanks! 2009/3/18 Joe Bauman <josephmbauman@yahoo.com>
Hi Friends, My latest blog is about an idea of mine to get rid of space debris. Please comment on the blog's site about whether it's a good idea or just dopey. Thanks, Joe
http://deseretnews.com/blogs/1,5322,10000034,00.html?bD=20090318
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Would the aerogel that they used in "Star Dust" work for the smaller debris? For the big stuff, maybe after the missions are finished, we could send the shuttle up and have them chase down and capture them. They could then push them to a lower orbit so that they would de-orbit. Dave -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:00 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] snagging space debris A snag boat in space? Joe, the propellor's wont work... Seriously, great blog- thanks! 2009/3/18 Joe Bauman <josephmbauman@yahoo.com>
Hi Friends, My latest blog is about an idea of mine to get rid of
space
debris. Please comment on the blog's site about whether it's a good idea or just dopey. Thanks, Joe
http://deseretnews.com/blogs/1,5322,10000034,00.html?bD=20090318
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If it's small enough for aero-gel, it's not a hazard. The shuttle doesn't carry enough fuel to maneuver a whole heck of a lot, plus that would get expensive in a hurry. Also it's being de-commissioned soon. 2009/3/18 Dunn, David <David.Dunn@supervalu.com>
Would the aerogel that they used in "Star Dust" work for the smaller debris?
For the big stuff, maybe after the missions are finished, we could send the shuttle up and have them chase down and capture them. They could then push them to a lower orbit so that they would de-orbit.
Off-Topic: I'm on the outside of that inside joke, no worries, levity is a good thing . BTW: Do they still have that process? Not too many people using slides these days but slide color is quite nice. I still run into people that use slide film although that number is dwindling. Bob -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces+robtaylor3661=comcast.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces+robtaylor3661=comcast.net@mailman.xmission.co m] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:46 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Of photons and film Old joke, Bob, Patrick knows that I was the lab tech at Replicolor for 5 years, about 25 years ago. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Robert Taylor <robtaylor3661@comcast.net>wrote:
If Bill can't do it I tink Replicolor in SLC does it, you can call - 801 328-0271 or (888)244-2222. Don't know what their prices would be.
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On 16 Mar 2009, at 09:21, Chuck Hards wrote:
Patrick, I THINK you can still buy E-6 processing kits on-line, if you want to continue the nostalgia trip and play with chemicals in the bathroom sink. And if I recall correctly, E-6 has about twice as many steps as C-41.
I'd prefer to not do slides myself. I had enough of that in years gone by. And, besides, with E-6 two of the chemicals are only good for a couple of weeks (IIRC). Bob was right in his suspicion about your old employer (thanks Bob). In fact when I dropped off the film the clerk said that while they no longer sell film or process Kodachrome, they still process a lot of E-6 films. The film will be ready for pickup tomorrow so I should have the results at the SLAS meeting. patrick
I had the slides at the SLAS meeting but Dave didn't have the projector for his usual slide presentation so I did not show them. And when I got home and inspected them at high magnification I discovered the stars were all perfectly round donuts. Grumble. Suspecting (hoping) it might have been a problem with the film holder I modified it and dug out some very old Tri-X (more flashbacks Chuck?) and shot 4 five minute unguided shots of the area around NGC-2683. Using chemistry I'd mixed years ago I processed one of the shots and while the old chemistry didn't work all that great it worked well enough to be encouraging. So I mixed up new chemistry (ah, the smell of stop bath) and tonight developed the other three images. Despite being frozen, the 20+ year old film had degraded a bit but worked well enough to show me the camera is still focused and producing sharp results. So I guess today I'll go buy a fresh roll of film and see what kind of results I get. Here BTW is a 1200 DPI scan of one of the images I developed tonight: http://users.wirelessbeehive.com/~paw/temp/ngc2683.jpg Remember that the original is a single frame of 35mm film. Even blown up to the full size of the monitor the stars are still tiny and well focused. Now if a nice, bright comet would just stop by... patrick On 15 Mar 2009, at 23:03, Patrick Wiggins wrote:
As I enter this I've got the clock turned back 10 years in my observatory and photons from M-42/42 are falling on film in my Schmidt camera.
At least I hope that's the part of the sky I'm imaging. The camera has no viewfinder so one has to set it up, take a picture, develop the picture and then see where it's pointed.
And I forgot just how big a pain it is to insert the film carrier.
I'll be in SLC tomorrow and will see if I can find some place to process the film (Bill C., Does Inkley's still do E-6?). If nothing else, it'll be fun to walk into a camera shop and see the clerk's reaction to being presented with a roll of film. :)
Hopefully I'll find some place and will be able to pick up the finished product in time for Tuesday's SLAS meeting.
For those wanting more info on Schmidt cameras: http://www.robertreeves.com/repair.htm
Carpe Noctem!
patrick
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