Re: [Utah-astronomy] Natural Bridges Saturday Night
I understand and it is a problem if no one shows up to a party where they are expecting a lot of scopes. But expectations can be managed and I think that if we actually look at what parties are not well attended I think we will find a pattern. I don't think the big Park Service parties fall into this category, the smaller and more remote week-day parties are probably more suspect here but I'm not sure, I don't see any feed back on the star parties. Currently we don't have a good mechanism to share that information with the club members at large. I try to help when I can by reporting on star parties or scheduled observing I go to on this board, others do the same but it's not a formal system, it's very informal and therefore inconsistent. However if we do have a club scheduled star party it might be a good idea to get a report on the outcome and report back to the entire club on it. Just a suggestion. That's one of the reasons I posted a couple things on Natural Bridges. I too have done star parties where I was the sole representative of SLAS, more than once. This past week-end was an example although to be fair the weather really didn't look good and I had nothing else to do that night. Roger has done a great job on these this year and his name is almost always on the list to attend these. If each of us in the club can support just one or two of these non-SPOC or non-Harmon's star parties each season we can cover all that needs to be covered. +++++++++++++ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 08:13:55 -0700 From: <zaurak@digis.net> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Natural Bridges Saturday Night To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <20080904081355.256C49CD@resin18.mta.everyone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I do not believe there is a problem, you can Star Gaze where and when you want. As an Astronomy Club it is bad when we advertise an event and no one or only a few show up. Willingness to participate is a factor, fortunately we have enough to support a robust schedule. We have had angry public when an event is scheduled and no one shows up. Rodger Fry has done an outstanding job with Special Star Parties and has accommodated most request. I hope next years board has someone as enthusiastic. Willingness to participate does seem to becoming a problem. We used to have a lot of people running for the SLAS Board with several people running for every office. Now we struggle to get one per office. SLAS members have a long history of National Park Star Parties., I see no reason why this can't continue. I even ran into John Dobson near Capital Reef in his RV asking for directions. Yes ladies, men do ask for directions. All I am saying is that SLAS has to be careful about having support for an event before scheduling. Members input is welcome, when deciding the schedule. I remember one year when I did 1-2 per week, most went well, but some I was the only person and I would end up with lines of 500 people. We would look at one thing for 3 hours, it was not enjoyable for anyone. Erik
This has morphed into a discussion of SLAS and I'm OK with that but I hope people don't get offended when I express my opinion on this. Star parties do not require board member supervision. They really don't even need club affiation. It just requires some one with a telescope set up in a place where some one else can find them. If you go to a National Park and just take your telescope, ask if you can set it up where others can share the view. Star Parties can be spontaneous. This is the spirit of Side Walk Astonomy. It's much better than the turf wars that we go through to try and come up with a schedule. And indeed many people are doing just this. Rob and I met a family at Wolf Creek with an Orion Dob from the Planetarium. They were like others I have met on forest service or BLM land. They have a telescope, are interested in astronomy, they are a joy to be with, and they would never even consider joining SLAS. Maybe we don't get recognition because we don't deserve it. DT
I have to take issue with you Daniel. You were the one who brought up SLAS in your post on Wednesday and whether SLAS-sponsored star parties should be limited or not. I'm trying not to be offended by your comment that we don't deserve recognition. Point out one other astronomy club that does even half as much as SLAS does and I won't be. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of daniel turner Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 2:35 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Natural Bridges Saturday Night This has morphed into a discussion of SLAS and I'm OK with that but I hope people don't get offended when I express my opinion on this. Star parties do not require board member supervision. They really don't even need club affiation. It just requires some one with a telescope set up in a place where some one else can find them. If you go to a National Park and just take your telescope, ask if you can set it up where others can share the view. Star Parties can be spontaneous. This is the spirit of Side Walk Astonomy. It's much better than the turf wars that we go through to try and come up with a schedule. And indeed many people are doing just this. Rob and I met a family at Wolf Creek with an Orion Dob from the Planetarium. They were like others I have met on forest service or BLM land. They have a telescope, are interested in astronomy, they are a joy to be with, and they would never even consider joining SLAS. Maybe we don't get recognition because we don't deserve it. DT _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.16/1651 - Release Date: 9/4/2008 6:57 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.16/1653 - Release Date: 9/5/2008 6:57 AM
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