Chuck asked about SLAS support for a dark sky site. Here is my brief recap of the history of this, unfortunately I don't recall the dates. It was at one of the Holiday Parties held at Patrick's house that some of us got together and discussed how nice it would be if SLAS had a dark sky site like some of the clubs in California Polaris comes to mind. So later that week if I rember correctly three of us Patrick, myself and Deloy Pierce set off on a night time drive to see of there were Dark Sites within an hours drive from SLC & Stansbury. We drove out to Dell and then down a dirt road going towards the boundry of the Test & Trainning Range, and also on the road thru Skull Valley area. Our conclusion, there wasn't quite anything there, but that a committe should be formed to study this. A SLAS Dark Sky Committeee was formed after the idea was brought up at a montly meeting. Dave Chamberlain was appointed head. This committee met regularly one Saturday a month at the old JB'S Restaurant now a Korean Barbacue on 7th E. in SLC. At the same time this occurred the membership present at a meeting was poled and they approved fundraising, so Sue Chamberlain Dave's wife took over this function. A large collection Jar was put out at all club meetings for members to donate what they could,this jar was also at public star parties. I believe this occurred for about 2 seasons. Meanwhile the committee had reached the point of beginning to search for land that could be leased or purchased for a secure site, Kim Hyatt (on the committee) drew up some prelim drawings of what a facility might look like. At about this time a Donor (who shall remain nameless) in this recounting, gave a large amount of money to be used for Dark Sky . Then ALONG CAME SPOC. first we had to relocate the observatory and then under the able stewardship of Sig the move was transformed into the present SPOC II. In all the excitement and work on this other project Dark Sky languished and the donor claimed he had meant for his money to go to SPOC so when this money was re assigned into SPOC fund several Dark Sky Boosters Deloy in particular became very bent out of shape. If any of what I have posted needs correction others who have been involved can offer their own recollections. Chuck, there was once great support from SLAS Membership for a secure Dark Site. We blew our last offer of a Dark Site from Club Member Dwight Ball who has purchased Dark Sky land near I believe Payson and offered to let us use part of it for a SLAS DK. Sky site,in return for helping him improve his land. We turned him down I don't rember if anyone ever went to look at it . This offer came at the time that the Dark Site Funding was then transferred into the SLAS General Fund and the Dark Sky Site idea was considered Case Closed. A secure Dark Site would be nice but as a SLAS site, I really don't Know. NATO.