And another thing Joe, Get rid of that Jeep. You can't really appreciate driving if you are not in a Mazda.Steve
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 11:41:21 -0700 From: josephmbauman@yahoo.com To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Push vs go-to -- was Re: Comet Garradd
Thanks for the support, David. But com'on all, we're friends here -- just disagreeing in a fun round of ragging each other over differing ideas. Let's not take offense. I enjoy debate even when my position is dumped on. (After all, I KNOW I'm right!) -- Joe
________________________________ From: David Rankin <David@rankinstudio.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Push vs go-to -- was Re: Comet Garradd
Good sound bite eh? I was just speaking at what you were implying. People that don't agree with you are ignorant and lazy.
Let me be the first to stand up and say, "Screw off".
Cheers,
- David
On 9/6/2011 12:16 PM, Chuck Hards wrote:
On 9/6/11, David Rankin<David@rankinstudio.com> wrote:
/So opinions that differ from you**perfect** logic are willing ignorance and mental laziness? Little on the judgmental side maybe?
"Perfect logic" are your words, not mine. A good sound bite, but you missed the point.
You and others have outright stated that my position of knowing the stars is a complete waste of time. I'm just holding up a mirror, my friend. Judgemental goes both ways in this instance.
I made a point of stating that I'm not advocating star-hopping over GoTo. My argument is strictly that of imploring people to take a path with rewards, sometimes intangible, sometimes concrete, that they are outright refusing to take, under a false assumption of it "wasting time".
I don't think any of us imagers would have a hard time finding the Big Dipper.
Hey, that's a great start. Keep up the good work!
/How is imaging lacking physical connection? The photons hit the eye, and are converted to some "digital image" by the brain in some process we don't fully understand. They hit my camera, my computer does it, and I then absorb that image into my brain in the same way but with even more information. I think digital imaging enhances my physical connection.
You should take that up with Brent. I'm not here to speak for him other than present his side of the "to each, his own" argument. It illustrated the other side of things. Brent obviously doesn't grasp your argument, and you don't grasp his.
Remember that I wrote that I enjoy imaging?
/"I can't see an interest in one aspect of astronomy meaning that others must be discarded./"
Again, I think this was just a matter of preference. False dichotomy.
I disagree. You are rationalizing your own position, but I think it's due to not fully understanding what I'm talking about. I am sure you are not against learning new things if they don't interfere with your core interests.
/"You're an astro-imager, exclusively, not a astronomer or astronomy enthusiast."
/Nothing to be ashamed of. Just because someone drew pictures in the sky doesn't mean I have to know them all to enjoy the sky the same way they do / did.
I never said it was a matter of shame. And I don't even visualize the "pictures" as you are projecting I and others do. I'm merely talking about knowing what is where. They are geometric patterns to me, with no animals or other "art" cluttering it up mentally.
I'm still in the dark as to why some people refuse to learn.
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