Allow me to add my 2c as an observer to this issue. I will start out by clarifying that I personally have no issue with Siegfried. From my perspective, Siegfried made a couple attempts at a humorous response to some requests for information. There is nothing inherently wrong with this. There are several people on this list who regularly make some very humorous posts and I think most (if not all) the members on this list appreciate them. It was pointed out that the people requesting the information really wanted it for some valid reasons. Siegfried interpreted these as personal attacks. As the discussion developed, some of them probably were, but I do not believe that is important now. If Sig had just swallowed his pride, admitted that he was a little out of line (although unintentionally), and offered the requested information all would have been well. Instead, Sig inexplicably picked up all his toys and went to play elsewhere. I think it is safe to say that we are all adults here and it is likely that nobody will hold a grudge over something so silly. He is certainly welcome back on the forum, but that is his choice. I do not see how it is our place to "beg" him to come back in private emails. If he is interested he will return, otherwise he won't. If he does decide to return, I think it would be wise to make a brief statement of contrition at least to those involved the little spat to patch things up, with a vow to try to be more helpful in offering information in the future. I don't particularly care whether he does this publicly (for all to read) or via email to a select few (like I said, I hold no ill feelings). Even those involved (Rich, for example) seem to hold the same thoughts I do (no ill will, just a desire for info). This forum is a place for him to shine as the SLAS president. He should be on here offering up information on current happenings and such, so I hope he does come back. But that is his choice. Aaron
-----Original Message----- From: Richard Tenney Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 10:20 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Siegfried
Since I'm the big bad ogre that started the whole thing, apologies first to the list.
But as I stated earlier, I harbor no ill will towards Siegfried. These days I'm just too darn busy, and too strapped for cash, to make 2 hour round trips to SLC if nothing of significance is planned for a meeting, that's all.
I did volunteer to find a speaker, off-list, but never heard back, so I guess maybe I'm the one HE's mad at...
I promise to behave in the future. Pass this along next time you see him.
-Rich
--- Patrick Wiggins <paw@trilobyte.net> wrote:
I spoke with Siegfried earlier today and during the course of the conversation learned he has left this forum because he thinks people here are mad at him.
I told him that while I do think that some folks here (including me) did not see the humor in his postings about meeting content I can't imagine that any would want him to leave the list permanently.
If you agree you might want to email him off list at
ziggy943@xmission.com and encourage him to come back.
Patrick