Joe, I copied your images and several of the comparison images and made a negative of the images with the white background so I could compare them in Paint Shop Pro (I know Kim will laugh at this, but it's a great tool and I use it professionally). I zoomed in and rotated the images to match, but I didn't notice any brightness where the supernova is located. I also split the images into RGB images and compared those, but found no significant brightness increase in any of the images. There is a brighter cloud region just above where the SN is located that you do have, but I personally don't see any indication of the SN in your very nice photos. Ken -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces+killerken=killerken.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces+killerken=killerken.com@mailman.xmission. com] On Behalf Of Kim Hyatt Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 4:23 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: Re: [Utah-astronomy] My M51 photos -- SN? Joe: I haven't looked at your photo, but if you think it shows the SN, then by all means, you should send it to the appropriate clearing house for such discoveries. Sorry, I can't say who that would be, but maybe Patrick could help. Your photo may be more important than the "discovery" photo. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Bauman" <bau@desnews.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 3:58 PM Subject: Re: Re: [Utah-astronomy] My M51 photos -- SN? | Well, if I got it, it is BEFORE the official discovery photo -- so I | wish I had studied it more carefully, so I could have claimed | discovery! IF I did get it, I think I know how I happened to get one | quite a bit earlier than others. It could be a SN that is visible for | quite a few days. I was so eager to try for a galaxy photo that I went | out on a night when the moon was in a very bad phase for astronomy -- | it was pretty close to full. So I waited until something like 3 a.m., | when the moon set, before I could get some pictures. I took a slew of | M51 views. Then, again assuming that it really is the SN, nobody else | was photographing M51 during the full moon stage and for a while | afterward. Then came the discovery view. Anyway, that's a theory. I | may submit the photo to the web site that shows the SN. Thanks, Joe | | On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 astrodeb@charter.net wrote: | | > Joe, | > | > I clearly see a spot in the spiral arm where it was discovered. You | > got it! I guess it teaches us to be more observant with our photos. I'm taking my 4" refractor out tonight. It would be interesting to see if I can see it in a 4" scope. | > | > Keep up those astrophotos, | > | > Debbie | > > | > > From: Chuck Hards <chuckhards@yahoo.com> | > > Date: 2005/07/06 Wed PM 03:33:35 MDT | > > To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> | > > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] My M51 photos -- SN? | > > | > > Joe, on both of your photos there does seem to be a bright object | > > at the location of the supernova, to my eye at least. | > > | > > C. | > > | > > --- Joe Bauman <bau@desnews.com> wrote: | > > | > > > I'm resending this because, as pointed out, the previous heading | > > > sounded like one of those Internet scams. | > > | > > | > > | > > ____________________________________________________ | > > Sell on Yahoo! Auctions - no fees. Bid on great items. | > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ | > > | > > _______________________________________________ | > > Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com | > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy | > > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com | > > | > | > _______________________________________________ | > Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com | > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy | > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com | > | | _______________________________________________ | Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com | http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy | Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com | | ______________________________________________________________________ | This e-mail has been scanned by Cut.Net Managed Email Content Service, using Skeptic(tm) technology powered by MessageLabs. For more information on Cut.Nets Content Service, visit http://www.cut.net | ______________________________________________________________________ | | _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com