I think the main thing that makes people get so debated over this is because they view them as the same when they are not. One is science, and that is the study of physical things around us, and coming up with a answer/reason for these things. The other is religion which is based on beliefs, and feelings, and none of that is something physical. I for one believe in both. we have things that we have found that prove in Science that we evolved. and we have things that in Religion have proved something else. therefore I think it is straight forward that science should be taught in a science class and religion should be taught in a religion class. just as I think physical fitness should be taught in Gym class and not in Math class. don't see a point in arguing this. Dan (sorry I dont write well. I should have attended english class more) :) "Lambert, Aaron" <Aaron.Lambert@Williams.com> wrote: Allow me to show the flip-side of the coin. I strongly resent some evolutionists as characterizing rank and file creationists as being "non-scientists". HOW DARE THEY?!! This reeks of intellectual elitism. How can "scientists" admit that, "the fossil record is not complete..." yet also argue so vehemently that any alternative ideas are preposterous? The THEORY of evolution is just a THEORY. It is an idea that someone came up with to try to describe observations. According to the tenets of science, anyone can come up with a theory that they feel supports a specific group of data. Much of what is proposed by the theory of evolution is just as unprovable and unobservable as are those things claimed by the "theory" of ID. Many will probably argue that in time we will have the ability to prove the theory of evolution or test its claims. That is likely true, but if we are making up technology to prove our points, I could also claim that we may also develop the technology to test things of a spiritual nature. We will then be able to prove or disprove whether IDs claims are accurate. It's too bad that some people feel a need to marginalize spiritual beliefs in order to validate their "science". Aaron
-----Original Message----- From: Chuck Hards Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 11:59 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] science and religion
And while I'm at it, I have to say that I strongly resent some creationists and ID proponents characterizing rank & file evolutionists as "Godless". How dare they? HOW DARE THEY?!! What a terrible, gross misjudgment. This reeks of the dark side of fundamentalism.
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