Ah Brent, my old friend. I wasn't trying to bait anyone - really. And, I admit that the picture of stellar evolution that Tyson discusses in the video itself is constantly evolving. I truly wonder about how this particular theory of stellar evolution fits a young earth perspective. I wonder, for example, if some might think that the universe could indeed be ancient but that the earth (and sun?) itself is still very young. Or, perhaps since God (or with a small "g" if you wish) can do anything, it doesn't matter that cosmology points to the need for stellar evolution to create heavy elements - God can do it any way or any where that He likes. At least this time, I really am not trying to bait, or mock, or offend anyone, I promise. I'd like to simply know what others think specifically about this. I have a neighbor in Tropic who is a Christian minister. I know that he believes in a young earth, but I haven't had the chance to ask about particulars. I don't really want a debate, just knowledge. It helps me as I talk to people in the Park. But thanks, Brent! Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Brent Watson Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:00 AM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Fw: Tyson on starstuff Have you seen this happen? For that matter, has anyone seen the young earth happen. None of this, young nor old is substantiated by actual observation. That is what creates interest and fun. After all, everything we think we know in the universe only comes from our observation of very narrow slivers of the electromagnetic spectrum. Of course, it all fits together as far as we know right now. I am left to wonder what will happen with additional knowledge that will come in the future. How will our perspective of the universe change? Science is only a glimpse of what we think we know at any one time. We are left to accept on faith either the young earth or the old earth. Just different sources. There, Kim, I took your bait! ________________________________ From: Kim <kimharch@cut.net> To: 'Utah Astronomy' <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Fw: Tyson on starstuff I consider this fact (i.e. that we're made of star stuff) as one of a number of key evidences for an ancient earth/ancient universe and I share it when I talk to people at astronomy programs. I know that we have some on this list who believe in a young earth, and I truly don't mean any disrespect here, but perhaps they would be interested in commenting on how the creation of heavy elements in the cores of stars and the fact that generations of stars were necessary to our evolution fits with that perspective. Anyone? Kim _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. To unsubscribe go to: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options". _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. To unsubscribe go to: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".