I just woke up after spending being awake all day yesterday and last night driving down south to watch the space shuttle reenter earth-space. I hope to have a color slide and color print of the sight when I get the films developed. My daughter, however, was able to get some video footage as it nearly passed overhead. How sad it is to now hear that sometime after we heard the sonic-boom after it disappeared from sight that such a disaster has happened.
Tom
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> 4. the saddest of news; Columbia (David L Bennett)
> 5. Is everybody asleep? (Greg Taylor)
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> 7. Re: Is everybody asleep? (Josephine Grahn)
> 8. Re: Is everybody asleep? (UTAHDEB@aol.com)
> 9. Re: Siebert Optics -correction- (Chuck Hards)
> 10. Re: the saddest of news; Columbia (Richard Tenney)
> 11. Urgent - Channel 4 news wants info (Richard Tenney)
> 12. Re: Is everybody asleep? (Greg Taylor)
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> 15. Re: the saddest of news; Columbia (Jim Gibson)
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>Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 19:35:47 -0700
>Subject: [Utah-astronomy] WOW!
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>Man, that was fantastic. What do you suppose the shuttle's elevation was =
>as it passed overhead?
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>Barney B
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>Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 08:31:21 -0800 (PST)
>From: Greg Taylor
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>Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Holy Crap!: NASA Shows No Hope for Survivors as Contact Lost With Shuttle
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>NASA Shows No Hope for Survivors as Contact Lost With
>Shuttle
>Feb. 1, 2003
>
>NASA loses contact with shuttle, declares emergency
>
>CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. (AP) -- NASA declared an
>emergency and feared the worst after losing
>communication with space shuttle Columbia as the ship
>and its seven astronauts soared over Texas several
>minutes before its expected landing Saturday.
>
>As the minutes wore on, there appeared to be no hope
>for their survival.
>
>Television stations showed what appeared to be debris
>falling, and NASA warned Texas residents to beware of
>any falling objects.
>
>NASA also announced that search and rescue teams were
>being mobilized in the Dallas and Fort Worth areas.
>
>Inside Mission Control, flight controllers hovered in
>front of their computers, staring at the screens. The
>wives, husbands and children of the astronauts who had
>been waiting at the landing strip were gathered
>together by NASA and taken to secluded place.
>
>"A contingency for the space shuttle has been
>declared,"
>
>Mission Control repeated over and over as no word or
>any data came from Columbia.
>
>In 42 years of U.S. human space flight, there had
>never been an accident during the descent to Earth or
>landing. On Jan. 28, 1986, space shuttle Challenger
>exploded shortly after liftoff.
>
>On Jan. 16, shortly after Columbia lifted off, a piece
>of insulating foam on its external fuel tank came off
>and was believed to have struck the left wing of the
>shuttle.
>
>Leroy Cain, the lead flight director in Mission
>Control, assured reporters Friday that engineers had
>concluded that any damage to the wing was considered
>minor and posed no safety hazard.
>
>Columbia had been aiming for a landing at 9:16 a.m.
>Saturday.
>
>It was at an altitude of 207,000 feet over
>north-central Texas at a 9 a.m., traveling at 12,500
>mph when Mission Control lost contact and tracking
>data.
>
>Security had been tight for the 16-day scientific
>research mission because of the presence of Ilan
>Ramon, the first Israeli astronaut.
>
>Ramon, a colonel in Israel's air force and former
>fighter pilot, became the first man from his country
>to fly in space, and his presence resulted in an
>increase in security, not only for Columbia's launch,
>but also for its planned landing. Space agency
>officials feared his presence might make the shuttle
>more of a terrorist target.
>
>Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's office said it
>had no immediate comment.
>
>Columbia's crew had completed 80-plus scientific
>research experiments during their time in orbit.
>
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>Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:34:24 EST
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>Patrick, $40 an hour is good. What is it? Bob
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>Patrick, $40 an hour is good. What is it? Bob
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>Message: 4
>Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 09:42:39 -0700
>From: David L Bennett
>To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com
>Subject: [Utah-astronomy] the saddest of news; Columbia
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>http://www.nasa.gov/
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>http://msnbc.com/news/857733.asp?0cv=CA00
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>Message: 5
>Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 09:21:31 -0800 (PST)
>From: Greg Taylor
>To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com
>Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Is everybody asleep?
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>Did you get my last message? This is no joke!
>
>Greg
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>Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 12:25:13 EST
>Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] the saddest of news; Columbia
>To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com
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>This is a total shock. I saw it flyover Ivins, UT at about 6:56 am. It was
>incredible! I went back to bed for another hour when I got up and heard the
>shocking news. My heart goes out to the astronauts and their families.
>
>Debbie
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>Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 10:37:56 -0700
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>From: Josephine Grahn
>Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Is everybody asleep?
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>I think we are all in shock, and having a hard time absorbing the news..
>I did not have the news on, and really appreciate you and Dave posting it.
>What a tragedy for the families of the astronauts.
>Jo
>
>
>At 09:21 AM 2/1/2003 -0800, you wrote:
> >Did you get my last message? This is no joke!
> >
> >Greg
> >
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>Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 12:46:11 EST
>Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Is everybody asleep?
>To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com
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>I heard about the tragedy. It doesn't seem like it was terrorism. Thanks for
>your post.
>
>Debbie
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>Message: 9
>Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 09:57:41 -0800 (PST)
>From: Chuck Hards
>Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Siebert Optics -correction-
>To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com
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>Greg:
>
>Still trying to deal with today's sad, sad news.
>
>As I recall, and bear in mind that it has been a
>couple of years, the eye-relief was shorter than I had
>expected, and there was more-than-usual amount of
>field curvature. It wasn't a bad eyepiece, but I
>thought it could have been better. I'm a Konig user
>myself, and the design is capable of more.
>
>C.
>
>--- Greg Taylor wrote:
> > Chuck,
> >
> > What displeased you about the Russell Konig? Just
> > Curious.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > --- Chuck Hards wrote:
> > > I spoke with my friend in Ohio last night (the one
> > > who
> > > owns the Siebert eyepieces I mentioned yesterday).
> >
> > > He
> > > told me that the Konig varaint that I wasn't too
> > > pleased with was actually made by Russell Optics.
> > >
> > > Chuck
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>Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:49:02 -0800 (PST)
>From: Richard Tenney
>Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] the saddest of news; Columbia
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>Deb,
>
>I take it at that time nobody there in the St. George
>area noticed anything amiss with the spacecraft?
>
>I feel heartsick over this horrible tragedy; a
>terrible blow to space exploration and another grim
>reminder just how much risk there is to the brave men
>and women who are willing to commit to the frontiers
>of discovery.
>
>I sure hope this doesn't set things back too far at
>NASA, like the aftermath of the Challenger accident
>did.
>
>And, if only the Bush admin. had as much interest in
>scientific exploration as they seem to have in taking
>down Saddam... sigh!
>
>-Rich
>
>
>--- UTAHDEB@aol.com wrote:
> > This is a total shock. I saw it flyover Ivins, UT at
> > about 6:56 am. It was
> > incredible! I went back to bed for another hour when
> > I got up and heard the
> > shocking news. My heart goes out to the astronauts
> > and their families.
> >
> > Debbie
> >
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>Message: 11
>Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:55:08 -0800 (PST)
>From: Richard Tenney
>To: Utah-Astronomy
>Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Urgent - Channel 4 news wants info
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>
>I just got a phone call from one of the directors at
>Channel 4 news. She wants to hear from anyone that
>saw the flyover this morning from down south, and
>apparently wants to do a personal interview with those
>willing to be on camera (Patrick, are you back yet?).
>
>They are also looking for someone who has a model of
>the space shuttle that would be willing to let them
>use it for the news segment (all of Hansen
>Plaetarium's stuff is in boxes it seems, ready for the
>move to the Gateway location).
>
>Anyway, if anyone can help, contact Megan Herrick at
>Channel 4 news: 975-4401
>
>Thanks,
>Rich
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>Message: 12
>Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:59:16 -0800 (PST)
>From: Greg Taylor
>Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Is everybody asleep?
>To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com
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>
>True,
>
>No terrorist orginization could bring the shuttle
>down.
>
>Greg
>
>--- UTAHDEB@aol.com wrote:
> > I heard about the tragedy. It doesn't seem like it
> > was terrorism. Thanks for
> > your post.
> >
> > Debbie
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>From: "B. Bettilyon"
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>Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 01:30:57 -0700
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>I saw it pass over St. George this a.m. (see my earlier post).=20
>
>Having never seen a reentry before, I am not sure if I saw anything out =
>of the ordinary or not. But what I did see were some "puffs" of contrail =
>that I supposed at the time were caused as it encountered uneven air at =
>such a high elevation and speed.
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>I am just sick.
>
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I saw it pass over St. George this a.m. =
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Having never seen a reentry before, I =
>am not sure=20
>if I saw anything out of the ordinary or not. But what I did see =
>were some=20
>"puffs" of contrail that I supposed at the time were caused as it=20
>encountered uneven air at such a high elevation and speed.
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>
I am just sick.
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>Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 13:36:43 -0700
>From: RLKelm
>To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Is everybody asleep?
>Reply-To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com
>
>We are deeply saddened for the families. Our hearts go out to them.
>
>My wife and I were watching live coverage on the news and I was trying
>to monitor NASA on-line.
>Right after the news showed the video feed of the breakup from WFAA in
>Dallas/Ft.Worth, the NASA site locked up and went blank.
>
>We kept watching the news showing the re-entry video over and over. Then
>they showed several other videos from other angles. We finally had to
>turn it off. Enough was too much.
>We were watching the Challenger as it launched - it was the same
>sickening feeling of disbelief
>
>We also fear for the space program.
>Can you imagine how much we would not know if there wasn't one?
>
>Rog
>
>
>
>Greg Taylor wrote:
>
> > Did you get my last message? This is no joke!
> >
> > Greg
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>Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 12:50:26 -0800 (PST)
>From: Jim Gibson
>Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] the saddest of news; Columbia
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>Rich
>I was there with Patrick and the rest. We did notice an event but were not sure if it was normal or unusual. Patric was the only experience obsurver and he was not alarmed. I have pictures and have sent them to Patrick so he can publish them on his web. I did catch the flair that MAY have been the begining of tragedy.
>Jim Gibson
> Richard Tenney wrote:Deb,
>
>I take it at that time nobody there in the St. George
>area noticed anything amiss with the spacecraft?
>
>I feel heartsick over this horrible tragedy; a
>terrible blow to space exploration and another grim
>reminder just how much risk there is to the brave men
>and women who are willing to commit to the frontiers
>of discovery.
>
>I sure hope this doesn't set things back too far at
>NASA, like the aftermath of the Challenger accident
>did.
>
>And, if only the Bush admin. had as much interest in
>scientific exploration as they seem to have in taking
>down Saddam... sigh!
>
>-Rich
>
>
>--- UTAHDEB@aol.com wrote:
> > This is a total shock. I saw it flyover Ivins, UT at
> > about 6:56 am. It was
> > incredible! I went back to bed for another hour when
> > I got up and heard the
> > shocking news. My heart goes out to the astronauts
> > and their families.
> >
> > Debbie
> >
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I was there with Patrick and the rest. We did notice an event but were not sure if it was normal or unusual. Patric was the only experience obsurver and he was not alarmed. I have pictures and have sent them to Patrick so he can publish them on his web. I did catch the flair that MAY have been the begining of tragedy.
>
Jim Gibson
>
Richard Tenney <retenney@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
Deb,
I take it at that time nobody there in the St. George
area noticed anything amiss with the spacecraft?
I feel heartsick over this horrible tragedy; a
terrible blow to space exploration and another grim
reminder just how much risk there is to the brave men
and women who are willing to commit to the frontiers
of discovery.
I sure hope this doesn't set things back too far at
NASA, like the aftermath of the Challenger accident
did.
And, if only the Bush admin. had as much interest in
scientific exploration as they seem to have in taking
down Saddam... sigh!
-Rich
--- UTAHDEB@aol.com wrote:
> This is a total shock. I saw it flyover Ivins, UT at
> about 6:56 am. It was
> incredible! I went back to bed for another hour when
> I got up and heard the
> shocking news. My heart goes out to the astronauts
> and their families.
>
> Debbie
>
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