Isn't the use of DSC's prohibited when trying for an A.L. Herschel certificate? When confronted with DSC's, I only use them if A: I've found the object before, the old-fashoined way; B: There's no finder on the main scope, or C: The line is long and I"m getting heckled for taking more than 10 seconds to find an object. Those of you who use them regularly, do you ALWAYS use them? Do you never try and find objects unassisted? I don't mean to dig on you guys who use them habitually, but c'mon, it's kind of like a handicapped sticker on your car, don't you think? (I'm KIDDING! No hate mail!) Thanks! Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/