Some details on choosing a binocular. The 10x70mm Harbor Frieght binos aren't a bad binocular, especially at the $40 price- but you need to know a bit about yourself before you spend your money. Specifically, how wide will your pupils open at night? If your pupils only open to 5mm, then about half the light-gathering power of the 10x70mm binos is going to waste. Your eye won't open enough to accommodate the entire Airy disk of the bino. If your pupils open to 6mm, then you can use about 75% of what the 10x70mm offers. Binocular model exit pupil dia (approx.) 10x50mm 5mm 10x70mm 7mm 11x70mm 6.4mm 15x70mm 4.7mm 20x80mm 4mm 25x100mm 4mm Knowing your dark-adapted pupil diameter will help you choose the best binocular for your own eyes. S&T used to sell a pupil gauge, and I think it was printed in a monthly issue some years ago. I was unable to find it on Sky Publishing's on-line catalog today, however. If someone can search for the issue it was published in and post it, I'd sure appreciate it. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com