This story illustrates that Nicole Cline is not a lighting engineer and out of her element on this topic. It's the same old "more is better" flawed logic. Yes, people do need night lighting, but there is such a thing as good night lighting and bad night lighting. The whole thrust of IDA's effort is to educate the lighting decision makers on the difference. I don't think Ms. Cline has any clue what she's talking about when she throws out the term "reflective glare". A properly illuminated area will not direct any light upwards- "full cut-off" fixtures is the term most used. The source of the illumination (the bulb or tube) should not be visible to persons not in the immediate area being illuminated. Any light reflected back upwards from a proper, full cut-off fixture contributes very little to light pollution. It's the poorly-designed fixtures that are the worst offenders. And ironically, most "security lighting" has the opposite effect of increased visibility. By blinding people facing the fixture and creating shadows for criminals to lurk in, security is reduced. This has been demonstrated by IDA. Just as important, properly designed, full cut-off lighting is more ecconomical. Light directed at the sky is money wasted and an eccological mis-step. Boo, boo on Ms. Cline. If she had any desire to the right thing for the people she works for, she would open her mind to good lighting instead of just tossing out that "it comes with the territory" crap.