The current issue of S&T notes that Ceres and Vesta will be within half a degree of each other between 29 June and 12 July and closest at only 10 arc minutes on 5 July. By coincidence there will be a SPOC star party on the 5th and I'm looking forward to using the Bogdan and its just over half degree field to see two relatively bright minor planets in the same FOV. If I've got my figures right on that evening the two will be 39 degrees up at the start of nautical dark and 32 degrees at the start of astronomical dark. Now having said all that, I'll predict rain the night of the 5th... :) Also, unrelated to the above but related to an earlier thread here on terminal velocity, here's a fun video a few friends shot a while back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnvcs6PNIxc I'm thinking that with the right amount of streamers we could do the same with a bowling ball. :) patrick