Guy, you kill me! Thanks for the laugh, I needed it! Lisa Zeigler www.johnstelescopes.com www.mirrorkits.com -----Original Message----- From: diveboss@xmission.com [mailto:diveboss@xmission.com] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 5:31 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Starpartyetiquetteforcrumbcrunchersandparents This is why in MY Dobson kit, right there next to the eyepieces and extinguisher, you will usually find a package of A&R hot dogs. I figure if my scope goes up, it won't be a total loss. ;) After this discussion, I am going to Kirkhams to have shoulder straps made for my 12" Dob, so I can carry it with me when I go hiking in the hills. Never know when I might get lost and need to start a fire. I know I can always find something to kill and eat, and while I am sitting around the smoldering scope, roasting prairie dogs and pot guts, I can always signal search aircraft with what's left of the mirror... ;)