This is the type of weather that favors armchair astronomy. There are a lot of smart people who have spent a lot of time trying to wrap their brains around questions such as these. Some of them occasionally write books to help the rest of us get a glimpse of what's happening in their field. I recommend Brian Greene's "The Fabric of the Cosmos". and a cozy recliner with jazz or classical music in the background. It's a great way to spend some time until the weather allows us to observe the sky again. But be prepared to learn something new because this stuff takes more than just 'common sense". DT From: Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Center of the universeCenter of the universe Nope. On Jan 16, 2015 10:17 PM, "Joan Carman" <jcarman6@q.com> wrote:
Does the term "observable universe" fit in here anywhere?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Siegfried Jachmann" <siegfried@jachmann.org> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 8:22:26 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Center of the universeCenter of the universe
There is no tunneling. We simply don't have a valid model. The only way the balloon universe works is if 'our' universe is only the thickness of the balloon material and we are not aware of the rest of it.
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 8:18 PM, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards@gmail.com> wrote:
Zoltan, as someone familiar with science, you must realize that while we are free to believe anything we want to, without testable evidence it is just an idea. Proof must be proof to all, not just ourselves.
The history of science also has many circumstances where issues considered absolutely false by the status quo turned out to be true. Continental drift and plate tectonics come to mind. There are many others.
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Nagy, Zoltan <nagyz@live.unc.edu> wrote:
Greetings,
I realize that what I am looking for does not exist as far as most, if not all, present scientists.
However may I remind all of you that if you look at the history of science, there were many issues considered absolutely true by all (or most) scientists, and eventually it turned out to be absolutely untrue. If I may be so bold, I would say that do not believe everything others believe. As a scientist attempt to prove everything to yourself, by yourself. Of course it is your choice.
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