We don't need to do away with term limits. This Constitution has served us well for over 30 years. What we need is something our last speaker was talking about. A slight change in culture that puts importance on serving in the society. If we really want to continue this society we have to have more participation especially from a younger crowd. If we don't accomplish then then we may as well change our name to the OGAS. Term limits at the ballot box don't work. Look at Orin Hatch, the guy that asked, "What do you call a 3 term Senator? ... You call him home." We need to find a different solution to the problem, if there really is a problem. The term limit principal is one the two main objectives we achieved when we wrote the new Constitution. After much consideration we adopted this clause to prevent abuses and potential abuses. Requiring turnover is a good thing. On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Joe Bauman via Utah-Astronomy < utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
The problem with your solution, Bruce, is that what's sauce for the secretary-treasurer should be sauce for the rest of the board members too. It's a lot simpler to just do away with all term limits. Re. backing up information: all the treasury records are on line.
On Monday, August 25, 2014 9:48 PM, Wiggins Patrick <paw@getbeehive.net> wrote:
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On Aug 25, 2014, at 21:03, Bruce Hugo via Utah-Astronomy < utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Wow. 3 nominations, 3 declines.
That folks declined is not unusual. That *no* one accepted is a first as far as I can remember. Rodger tells me he's got a few folks in mind and is ringing them (so maybe if you see his name on Caller ID don't answer <G> ).
We've had the a similar problem in the Utah Orchid Society (UOS).
You need to change the name to Utah Flower Observers. Makes for a much better acronym. :)
Oh, on the SLAS Treasurer term debate: I'm not jumping into this heated debate, just offering an FYI - The Treasurer position in the UOS has no term limit. It does help keep the accounting stable/reliable as long as the member is willing to perform the duties and does them well (We have experienced Treasurer problems in the past). My only worry as President is if something were to happen to the Treasurer (car crash, health problems, etc.) you need to make sure there is a backup person who has all the accounting information and account data, just in case. I am actually presenting this at the next UOS board meeting. If not already done in the SLAS, it may be something to consider.
I think the biggest problems with the Sec/Treas position are that it's actually two jobs usually done in other organizations by two people (anyone remember why we did that?) and that it does take more time than the other board positions.
But I've found that if one stays on top of it it's not that hard. I rarely spend more than 10 minutes a day on it except for those days when I writing up the minutes and balancing the financial records.
And it is much easier now that virtually all transactions are handled on line and all of the books are now computerized. So very much easier than the old days when everything had to be done with pencil and paper.
patrick
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