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RE: amateur astronomy, zen, & power outages (Gary Liptrot) 11. RE: amateur astronomy, zen, & power outages (Chuck Hards) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 21:30:38 -0700 From: Patrick Wiggins <paw@trilobyte.net> Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Lost Dog (Beagle 2) To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <3FEFADED.295FDFAF@trilobyte.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii One ray of hope comes from the fact that Odyssey was not designed to detect signals from Beagle. The Mars Express orbiter (the part of the mission that continues to work fine and that the media continues to ignore) was designed for that purpose. So hopefully, once it is in position early next month we'll finally hear from Beagle. Patrick Chuck Hards wrote:Mars has a habit of eating space probes, there's no doubt about it. While there may still be slim hope for Beagle 2, it looks like the planetary equivalent of the "kite-eating tree" got the planetary scientists again. Taking Patrick's observations as a guide, I've tried to avoid getting my news from main-stream sources and stayed with those friendly to science. Less soap opera that way. The past few unsuccessful landers have just made that little Sojourner rover all the more remarkable, don't you think?... And those Viking landers still cast a long shadow, don't they? Keep your fingers crossed. There's an ID chip in this lost pup. C.o------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 13:36:05 -0700 From: David Dunn <david.dunn@albertsons.com> Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Mars News To: "&Astro (utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com)" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <99899D7E2E3BD411A9DB00508B665DF206ED6FE3@slcntdex01.albertsons.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I happened across this article while browsing. This would be the kind of luck I would have. http://www.spaceflightnow.com/mars/marsexpress/031229crater.html <http://www.spaceflightnow.com/mars/marsexpress/031229crater.html> Thanks. David Dunn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/utah-astronomy/attachments/20031229/371821dd/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 15:34:36 -0800 (PST) From: Chuck Hards <chuckhards@yahoo.com> Subject: [Utah-astronomy] amateur astronomy, zen, & power outages To: Utah-Astro <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <20031229233436.635.qmail@web14008.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If anybody is checking their email on a cell phone or laptop, huddled in the cold & dark, just say the word and we'll get you some relief somehow. We lost power Friday morning at 9, didn't get it back until Saturday night at 7, 34 hours. House internal temp was about 48 degrees by then. Isn't it amazing how your spirits can soar just from the sight of a lightbulb lighting up? BTW, truss poles don't burn, and the shroud makes a lot of stinky smoke...same with laminated atlases. Only use the plain paper ones. ;) C. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 17:12:53 -0700 From: Kim Hyatt <khyatt@smithlayton.com> Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] amateur astronomy, zen, & power outages To: 'Utah Astronomy' <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <C70ACAF8B99FD411A17000D0B7B1DBAA5B8D21@SLASERV1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" OK, Chuck - I give. How did you happen to discover the fire-resistant properties of truss poles? -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Hards [mailto:chuckhards@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 4:35 PM To: Utah-Astro Subject: [Utah-astronomy] amateur astronomy, zen, & power outages If anybody is checking their email on a cell phone or laptop, huddled in the cold & dark, just say the word and we'll get you some relief somehow. We lost power Friday morning at 9, didn't get it back until Saturday night at 7, 34 hours. House internal temp was about 48 degrees by then. Isn't it amazing how your spirits can soar just from the sight of a lightbulb lighting up? BTW, truss poles don't burn, and the shroud makes a lot of stinky smoke...same with laminated atlases. Only use the plain paper ones. ;) C. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 16:45:34 -0800 (PST) From: Chuck Hards <chuckhards@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] amateur astronomy, zen, & power outages To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <20031230004534.12638.qmail@web14008.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii OK, they really DO burn, but at a lot hotter temperature than my hibachi can generate...;) Heck, I've got a garage full of aluminum poles. And (gasp) I actually plan to go with "trusses" on my 17.5" and the 12.5" test-bed I'll build first to try-out some ideas. C. --- Kim Hyatt <khyatt@smithlayton.com> wrote:OK, Chuck - I give. How did you happen to discover the fire-resistant properties of truss poles?__________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 21:05:52 EST From: UTAHDEB@aol.com Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] C/2000 T7 LINEAR To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <18.39cb2723.2d223780@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Jim, I went to the library today and looked at the recent Jan. edition of Astronomy magazine to get coordinates for the T7 LINEAR comet. Since the weather forcast doesn't look good until sometime after New Year's day, I won't get out to find until sometime in January. Anyway here is the table I copied. Date R.A. DEC Jan 1 1hr 09.2m 25 45' Jan 6 0hr 57.8m 23 57' Jan 11 0hr 48.1m 22 17' Jan 16 0hr 40.0m 20 46' Jan 21 0hr 33.2m 19 23' Jan 26 0hr 27.6m 18 10' Jan 31 0hr 22.9m 17 04 According to these coordinates, the comet should enter Pisces and head southwest towards Gamma Pegasus at the end of the month. Also, for those of you that don't know it yet, this comet should reach 1st magnitude by May if the predictions are correct. Hopefully it won't fizzle out like the infamous Kohoutek comet of '74. Debbie ps I finally got my Jan issue of Sky and Telescope today. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/utah-astronomy/attachments/20031229/4d922f05/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 19:39:36 -0700 From: Patrick Wiggins <paw@trilobyte.net> Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Re: C/2000 T7 LINEAR To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <3FF0E568.E3A367B4@trilobyte.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii And to save a trip to the library, have a look at: http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/Ephemerides/Comets/2002T7.html Patrick UTAHDEB@aol.com wrote:Jim, I went to the library today and looked at the recent Jan. edition of Astronomy magazine to get coordinates for the T7 LINEAR comet. Since the weather forcast doesn't look good until sometime after New Year's day, I won't get out to find until sometime in January. Anyway here is the table I copied. Date R.A. DEC Jan 1 1hr 09.2m 25 45' Jan 6 0hr 57.8m 23 57' Jan 11 0hr 48.1m 22 17' Jan 16 0hr 40.0m 20 46' Jan 21 0hr 33.2m 19 23' Jan 26 0hr 27.6m 18 10' Jan 31 0hr 22.9m 17 04 According to these coordinates, the comet should enter Pisces and head southwest towards Gamma Pegasus at the end of the month. Also, for those of you that don't know it yet, this comet should reach 1st magnitude by May if the predictions are correct. Hopefully it won't fizzle out like the infamous Kohoutek comet of '74. Debbie ps I finally got my Jan issue of Sky and Telescope today.------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 20:14:11 -0800 (PST) From: Chuck Hards <chuckhards@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] C/2000 T7 LINEAR To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <20031230041411.75238.qmail@web14004.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- UTAHDEB@aol.com wrote:Hopefully it won't fizzle out like the infamous Kohoutek comet of '74.Debbie, I remember seeing comet Kohoutek back then, in a 4.25" f/10 Newtonian, at the tender age of 15. I was disappointed that the smudge I saw in the eyepiece didn't live up to the hype, but was still thrilled that I'd found a real comet all by myself. Little did I know what awaited me just a few seasons ahead! Comet West more than made up for Kohoutek's fizzle, but didn't get nearly the press. Another West would be sweet. C. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 http://search.yahoo.com/top2003 ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 23:45:57 EST From: UTAHDEB@aol.com Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] C/2000 T7 LINEAR To: utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <115.2d2e2b4f.2d225d05@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes, it would be sweet now that I have the equipment to photograph it. I didn't see either comet. My first comet was Halley's comet. That's what really got me into astronomy. Debbie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/utah-astronomy/attachments/20031229/b4695e2d/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 23:36:42 -0700 From: "Gary Liptrot" <n7zi@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] amateur astronomy, zen, & power outages To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <LPBBIFKOPKFGADLPOBDPOELFFDAA.n7zi@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sorry for the late reply Chuck, Saturday was our day for power fizzle. It went off at 04:30 and came back on at 21:30 that night. Yes the temp was getting low. I was shopping for a better heat source than my fireplace and found a thingy called DynaGlow at Walley World for about 80 bucks. It was great. It takes those small green propane (?) bottles and puts out great heat. I put one in the far reaches of the house and it would cook you out of the room. I'm going to get me several for the next Pacificorp unscheduled emergency drill. We have at least one every other month here. Oh and I did drag out my 240 lbs of AGM solar batteries and hooked up a few DC lights and a laptop to play DVD's for the grandkids. It's an adventure for the first six hours, after that it gets to be a pain and downright scary in the winter. Hope your doing OK now... B) Tnx es 73 de n7zi Gary "Why buy something for ten bucks when you can make it for a hundred.", J.R. -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces+n7zi=comcast.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces+n7zi=comcast.net@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 4:35 PM To: Utah-Astro Subject: [Utah-astronomy] amateur astronomy, zen, & power outages If anybody is checking their email on a cell phone or laptop, huddled in the cold & dark, just say the word and we'll get you some relief somehow. We lost power Friday morning at 9, didn't get it back until Saturday night at 7, 34 hours. House internal temp was about 48 degrees by then. Isn't it amazing how your spirits can soar just from the sight of a lightbulb lighting up? BTW, truss poles don't burn, and the shroud makes a lot of stinky smoke...same with laminated atlases. Only use the plain paper ones. ;) C. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 11:40:03 -0800 (PST) From: Chuck Hards <chuckhards@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] amateur astronomy, zen, & power outages To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <20031230194003.99766.qmail@web14006.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Gary: I've already worked a generator and wood stove into our '04 budget...never again! C. BTW, the new carbon-fiber tube Celestrons cannot be used for deep-frying turkeys. Only use the older models with aluminum tubes. ;) --- Gary Liptrot <n7zi@comcast.net> wrote:Saturday was our day for power fizzle. It went off at 04:30 and came back on at 21:30 that night. Yes the temp was getting low. I was shopping for a better heat source than my fireplace and found a thingy called DynaGlow at Walley World for about 80 bucks.__________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 http://search.yahoo.com/top2003 ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com End of Utah-Astronomy Digest, Vol 10, Issue 17 **********************************************