My apologies to any of our non-LDS friends who read these posts with references to the dominant local culture. I am not trying to be exclusive in any way. Rich wrote: | For the record, no LDS prophet (speaking as such) has, | to my knowledge anyway (and I've researched this a | fair bit), ever said that "evolution isn't true". I'm reminded of a Sunday school teacher I had about 30 years ago who (whom?) I admired a lot, but whose standing in my judgment dropped a notch when he said that Abraham was the greatest astronomer who had ever lived. He was referring, of course, to the Book of Abraham and to Abraham's discussion with God about the universe and astronomical bodies. However, when I read that book I find nothing that fits with what we know from modern astronomy, and since I trust much of what we've learned from astronomy, I conclude that the words of Abraham are probably allegorical. However, I'm sure that people of Buttars's ilk will always assume that the scriptures MUST be true and scientists MUST, therefore, be wrong. They and the Taliban have much in common. Too bad we probably can't convince Buttars to convert and move to Afghanistan.