I wouldn't use Fred Hoyle to try a bolster an argument for pseudo-science. As a scientist, Fred has a credibility somewhere between Conferate currency and Enron corporate bonds. If you come to argue science you will need something more convincing than talking points from Rush Limbaugh. Science is base not on "belief", but on EVIDENCE. And there is plenty of evidence for Evolution, the Big Bang, General Relativity, Black Holes. There are plenty of books that will spell out that evidence for you. An in America you can read them until the religious leaders issue a Fatwa. And if you don't want to "believe" in science, then stop by Walmat for a pack of di-lithium crystals and have Scotty beam you aboard. DT --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page