Hate to rub it in, but I've got several great sites, all of which are superior to Rush Valley, the Gravel Pit and Lakeside, within a ten minute drive from my home. Even Skyline Drive is better than Wolf Creek Pass in some ways and I can get there in less than 30 minutes. I live right in town, yet just outside my front door the sky is darker than that at SPOC. On the downside, it's hard to make a living here. :-( However, as you may surmise, I do have my priorities in order. As Lowell wrote earlier, he and I did indeed have a great time at the gravel pit on Friday night. It was dark, transparent and steady enough to pick out a few faint objects I haven't seen before, and Lowell's C14 gave impressive views. When I lived in SLC I, too found it to be a convenient dark site. I recommend it for anyone who hasn't yet been there. Kim -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Jay Eads Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 6:38 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Brown's Canyon/Gravel Quarry I'll have to give the Gravel Pit a try sometime. I have a couple of sites up pass Guardsman Pass that I like but they will become unusable come winter. In terms of Lakeside and Rush Valley/Pit n Pole, I like both sites and Rush Valley is only a 40 to 45 minute drive for me. If humidity is up I can go up in elevation out there by Five Mile Pass which is a shorter drive and the two sites there are up and away from the main road, or pass the Pit n Pole site. Also to get out of the humidity there are a few sites above Provo that are okay and accessible come winter.