Concerning the "frontage road", it runs next to the train tracks on the north side. Late last century I wandered on to it at Lakeside proper while bird watching and decided to keep driving until I found a space wide enough to turn around. I ended up in Lucin before I could get off. It was quite a ride and thankfully no train came by while I was stuck so close to the tracks. Since then there was a locked gate installed to keep such adventurers as myself from doing it again. DT ________________________________ From: Brent Watson <brentjwatson@yahoo.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Concrete Arrows I did try Bing maps. There is better resolution, I agree. However, the arrow at exit 62 looks to point right at the arrow at exit 77. The arrow at exit 77 does point a bit north of Lakepoint, but not that far. I could give the 1930s surveyors a bit of slack, and over that distance an airplane should be able to connect the dots. Neither appears to me to point to Ogden. All of this assumes that Bing keeps north at the very top of the image. Did you notice the color paint on the arrow at exit 77? It looks to be red with a dark blue border. That is different than the yellow they were supposed to be painted. Patrick, is that paint still there? Brent From: Ed <utnatsedj1@xmission.com> To: Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Concrete Arrows Brent, Exit 6: Yes, that is where the road goes nearly straight north to Lakeside (where the railroad crosses the lake from Ogden and reaches the western shore of the Great Salt Lake). The road is labeled "Frontage Road" on Google Earth. The arrow is on the hill about a mile due north of the interchange. Exit 77: Yes, that is where SR 196 (the Skull Valley road) joins I-80 at Timpie Springs. The arrow is beside the road going out to the Springs and is northeast of the interchange. I'm sure we are both talking about the same two of arrows. According to the GIS Arrow Project map, the main route to LAX goes out the south end of the SL valley. The south tail of the arrow at Lakepoint must be for an alternate route to LAX. I assume that tail is intended to connect with the arrow east of Stockton that Patrick found and is on the GIS map. Did you try the Bing.com/maps for better aerial views of the arrows? Ed _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy@mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. To unsubscribe go to: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".