I posted two new photos of Lulin to my SLAS gallery http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=464&g2_page=2 The first is another version of one already posted earlier, but this time edited by Tyler Allred. He works magic even on my simple tripod & camera shot. Here's what he did: "I am using Photoshop CS3, but there may be a more recent version out. I just did a quick version with your data. I used Focus Magic (Photoshop plug-in program) to remove the trailed stars. Then I did some curves and levels adjustments in Photoshop. I broke my own rule and forced the background to black because there was quite a bit of blotchy noise there. That is normal when using only 1 frame. The resulting image is not bad. Keep up the good work." It is encouragement like that which makes me enjoy this discussion group. And, Chuck, no matter how curmudgeonly you try to sound, we all know you're just a kind old teddy bear! Like the Saturday you volunteered to come to my house to collimate my 20-year old Dob, when I had never heard of collimation before. Thanks to the group for being a source of light and friendship. Raeburn Kennard (mostly a "lurker")