Debbie, I agree with you. Your mention of the St George floods reminded me of something. Several months ago I was in the Salt Lake Public Library just aimlessly taking books of the shelves and skimming for something interesting. In the philosophy/religion section I saw a book called Brigham Young's Journal of Discouses. In it was a report from a group of Mormon authorities who went to the St George area over 100 years ago. Apparently their assignment involved geographical surveys and anlayses of agricultural profitability in order to assist Young in the church's colonization planning. What struck me was their advice about the periodic flooding of the river--these were gleaned from reports told to them by indians living in the area as well as their own surveying conclusions. They urged against any construction and farming close to the river--it would be hazardous and costly as the river valley was historically proan to major flood damage. Their was nothing supernatural about what they reported--it was simply based upon straightforward investigation, and conclusions drawn with the aid of well-known principles. Over the decades I suppose commercial interests and people who didn't take seriously the area's tendency to flooding began to develop the area anyway. After the St George floods I heard people wonder about those who built and subsequently lost their homes near the river. Similar to things I heard after the Katrina hurricane, they seem to suggest that victims of natural disasters were being punished by God for what they did or didn't do. I suppose people like Robertson would be more than happy to have them fear that God was angry with them. Mike