I got the shipping notice on this today, so the backorder delay wasn't nearly as bad it initially appeared. With luck it will arrive while the high pressure is still stuck over us. I also tried Orions "mag-wheel" focuser knobs, installing them on a 1.25" focuser, as well as a 2" focuser. Looks aside, they improved the feel and function of both, due mainly to their increased diameter over the stock knobs. Just a little more leverage makes a difference. The rubber grip ring is a nice touch. The 80mm scope appears to have similar knobs, judging from the photo, although it is supposed to be a Crayford-style rather than R&P. C. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com