I'm with you, Rich. 2001 was not a good movie. I DID understand the movie, but for me it died in editing. It was interminably L-O-N-G, and the special effects were just OK. I saw nothing particularly etherial nor spiritual, nor causing introspection. It was a good story line that was made too long. I cannot watch it to this day because it is so slow moving. I have better things to do. I, too am a Star Trek fan. My favorite is ST2, because I helped make it. If you wait long enough you will see my name in the credits. The TV series - all three of them are good in their own way. DS9 on the other hand was not up to the same standard. I really enjoyed Forbidden Planet and WoW when they came out. I still enjoy watching Forbidden Planet, and occasionally WoW. But the one that scares me is Fire in the Sky. Now that movie has some real disturbing implications to my way of thinking. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com