There is one thing you guys haven't considered in building a raceway and that is the lifestyle of the racing fans. You really think that we can have a raceway without beer being served? The state would have to change the liquor laws in order to accomodate the racing fans. Just look at the 2002 Olympics as an example. They had to bend the liquor laws to accomodate the people. I don't think you guys have anything to worry about because all of the major speedways serve some sort of alchohol. It would be like going to a football game without beer. The fans wouldn't stand for it and I think the racing fans are just like the football fans. I don't think they are going to change anytime soon. Debbie
From: ziggy943@xmission.com Date: 2004/12/13 Mon PM 01:46:57 MST To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Tooele racetrack
<<"Perhaps a little activism might not be out-of-hand in this instance.">>
We should find out all of the details we can. Will there be public discolsure of the detail plans? When? Will there be an opportunity for public input. I agree with the idea that we should be involved and get as much ahead of this as we can.
Any volunbteers for a committee?
Siegfried
Quoting Chuck Hards <chuckhards@yahoo.com>:
Some people I've spoken to seem to feel that the racing itself shouldn't pose too much of a problem, most events will be over before midnight, but Guy made a good point about the traffic going home, also the facility will be used for concerts and other events on non-race nights and these events may cause the biggest problems from a light pollution standpoint because individually they are "one-time only" events and can more easily get a variance or waiver for the event.
From experience I've found that full-cut-off shielding has a marginal effect when the source is massive and very close. Also paved surfaces reflect much more than turf or planted ground. Perhaps a little activism might not be out-of-hand in this instance.
From: diveboss@xmission.com To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:29:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Tooele racetrack
I don't think the 'light pollution ordinance' will have any effect on the glare from all the traffic. Not to mention all the dust in the atmosphere. Maybe now would be a good time to drop him a note to let him know that there is an observatory in the area and what effect the proposed plan might have on it's operation.
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