Sounds like perhaps it's time to talk about SLAS purchasing dark-site land somewhere. Again. Utah is growing, you can't expect your little hide-aways to remain secluded for long. I'm not mocking anyone's attitude about their favorite dark sites, just being realistic. The only practical, legal way to keep the public away is to own the land you observe on, either individually, as a co-op, or the SLAS corporation owns it with paid members having a use privilege. Many other clubs have purchased dark-site land for this very reason. A good thing is never a secret forever. I believe Sheena wanted suggestions emailed to her, there's no guarantee that she is monitoring list postings. I would suggest if anyone feels strongly enough about it to post here, that they forward their thoughts to her email. Patrick posted it in the first message on this topic.