Just watched the shuttle and station fly over. The much brighter station came over first with the shuttle (much fainter and noticeably whiter) about 75 seconds later. Possibly an optical illusion but both to the eye and through 7x35 binoculars the station appeared larger than the shuttle. The shuttle appeared much more starlike. Both NASA ( http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/realdata/sightings ) and Heavens Above ( http://www.heavens-above.com ) are calling for much better passes for northern Utah Wednesday and Friday nights and a very nice pass for southern Utah (Cindy, Jerry, Debbie?) Saturday night. patrick p.s. to "Mr. Anonymous", nice try but, no this is not me earlier in life <grin>: http://www.gamesfather.com/video/BestFQay-kz67NI.htm