I guess I don't see what all the fuss is about. Brent's UFO story turned out to really by an IFO story because he correctly determined it was a geosynchonous satellite. Another member told me about a moving dot on the face of the moon which he researched and concluded was a migrating bird. These guys did the due diligence of science and the UFO became an IFO. Another club member saw flashing lights in the east but needed to be told that there was a thunder storm fifty miles in that direction that night and yes you can see them from that far away. UFO turned into IFO. Best to call them IFO stories. As an amateur astronomer I do more than just observe and report. I like to intepret and explain, because that's part of the science process, and astronomy is a science. As an amateur photographer still shoot pictures and process them into their final form. Amateur golfers still hit the ball around. So amateur status in a science field doesn't mean you're free to shut off your brain and pretend. The real world is much more interesting and challenging. But it requires some effort. DT