I still don’t get where they’re coming from. Higgs, theoretically, has very little to with the properties of the universe on a grand scale. It is, basically, a theoretic construct to explain electro-weak symmetry breaking…why do the intermediate vector bosons have mass while the other force-carrying particles (photons, gluons) do not. As such, Higgs accounts for very little mass in the universe. Our everyday experience with mass (rocks, trees, tables, squirrels and such) is a consequence of the energy of interactions between subatomic particles. Refer to Einstein’s 24 September 1905 paper, “Does the inertia of a body depend upon its energy content?”. Yep, it does. This is origin of most mass and has nothing to do with the Higgs mechanism. So much for the god particle. Now to the universe at large. As you are well aware, current measurements extrapolate a value of baryonic mass for the universe at about 3-4%. Most mass in the universe, as far as we can tell, is non-baryonic. We can’t detect it except for its gravitational effects. This leads one to assume it is non-baryonic or it would have a little stronger coupling with photons. The Higgs particle/mechanism is an additional theoretic layer to the standard model which deals with baryonic matter. Finding the Higgs boson in no way invalidates big bang cosmology. How could it? However, most likely, I’ve missed something. Besides, I’ve decided that we live in a simulation. Why do I suspect this? It seems this simulation’s operating system is about as glitchy as Windoze. Restart. Happy holidays, Dave On Dec 25, 2012, at 10:47 AM, M Wilson <astro_outwest@yahoo.com> wrote:
I don't know. One of them is retired from ATK and was heavily involved with the Apollo missions and has a strong scientific background. For him to make such a claim makes one pause.
________________________________ From: Dave Gary <davegary@me.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Higgs-Boson Disproves the Big Bang Theory
I don't know where these two are arriving at that conclusion unless they think Higgs is responsible for most mass (not even close) and that is the reason our universe exists.
What was their rationality for such a statement? Did they hear it from Rush Limbaugh?
Dave
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On Dec 24, 2012, at 1:06 PM, M Wilson <astro_outwest@yahoo.com> wrote:
I was in a conversation with two others last night when the subject of the "God Particle" [Higgs-Boson] came up.
Both were in unanimous agreement that its discovery blew-to-bits the Big Bang Theory.
I questioned that supposition, as I haven't read any articles that made such a claim.
Does anyone on this list know how these two came to that conclustion? _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy
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