I saw Syrtis Major, the polar caps and a lot of detail on Mars in Kim Hyatt's Celestron 8" Ultima 2000 at Wolf Creek even at relatively low power (150X). In S.E. Salt Lake near the mountains the turbulence can be dreadful. If your image is stable check the collimation. Clear Skies Don Colton -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Barney B. Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 10:52 AM To: Utah-Astronomy@Lists.Xmission.Com Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Mars Is anyone getting any surface detail on Mars when using a C-8 scope? I've tried 130 power 162 power and 285 power with no success...well maybe I can see just the slightest hint of color change at 162 At 285 it's just an orange blob. This was at 4:30 A.M. last Saturday from Southeast SLC. Barney B.