Dave Gary <Dave.Gary@m.cc.utah.edu> wrote: <First, "evolutionist theory" has nothing to say about origin-of-life questions.> You know, that's what I remember from college and readings since then. But for so many people and in the context of this issue with Buttars - they are talking about origins of life, that's what they think when they hear evolution. How do we successfully separate everything out properly for the citizenry so they can make informed decisions? The Origin of Phyla book, thanks for recommending it, I will definitely check it out. What do you know about these other books? I am thinking about getting them as well and I'm interested in everyone's opinions, especially if you've read them or if you are aware of any critiques by reputable objective scientists. Evolution vs. Creationism: An Introduction by Eugenie C. Scott Man the Hunted: Primates, Predators, and Human Evolution by Donna L. Hart & Robert W. Sussman The Ancestor's Tale: A Pilgrimage to the Dawn of Evolution by Richard Dawkins The Structure of Evolutionary Theory by Stephen Jay Gould Thanks! Here's another thought: What if Buttars gets his way or at least partially his way. What happens when these kids that have gone through the public school system go to college? What if some colleges don't want to consider students from Utah public schools because they haven't had a proper science education according to the rest of the national academic community? Honestly, if Buttars won, I don't think he would win for long. Law suits would be filed and somewhere on the way to the Supreme Court I am optimistic that logic would win out. But along the way how much money would the state spend defending Buttars victory? That's money that we should be spending on educating this state's children instead. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com