Sounds fun! ________________________________ From: Chrismo <djchrismo@gmail.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2012 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Sieg's eclipse site scouting trip One of the reasons I've been considering points further north along the line is that the sun will be setting while eclipsed from the viewpoint there near Cedar City. There is a rather attractive spot near Lake Tahoe at Pyramid Lake, but if anyone else is considering that area, be aware that there is a 5-day Woodstock-like rave event planned there, coinciding with the eclipse. On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Siegfried Jachmann <siegfried@jachmann.org>wrote:
I have not.
I would have trouble organizing the equipment I am planning on taking on a bus. My van will be packed but it is organized for easy access for what I need when I need it.
Sig
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 10:04 AM, <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
It sounded like a quote from Patrick in an article that proclaimed bus loads of charters from SL.
Have we even heard of one bus charter from SLC?
Probably from experience.
Sig
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 8:54 AM, <erikhansen@thebluezone.net> wrote:
Well, if the bus is not full it wastes parking.
I wonder where NASA gets the number of 5,000? It seems perhaps hype
is
ahead of reality.
I have never been opposed to the idea of a bus, only the proposal that
SLAS pay for it.
A bus to Newcastle might not be a bad idea. Going there you need something with facilities. The resident sagebrush is rather low. It doesn't provide much cover... if you know what I mean. :-)
At Kanarraville we're not talking a smooth field. It's not exactly a parking lot. There would be places suitable for a bus... *IF* the bus got there in time to get space for 40 people to set up. From the expectations told to us, my guess is that the available parking will go quickly. If we, me and family, opt for Kanarraville, my intent would be to be there very early and be there all day. Dave Ence did mention he has heard of people wanting to camp overnight.
Sig
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Joe Bauman < josephmbauman@yahoo.com> wrote:
OK, Please don't think I'm trying to start another big fight. But with the problems of parking, etc., wouldn't it make sense to rent a bus? Besides the fact that it's a lot easier to park a bus than 25 cars, many tour vehicles have restroom facilities aboard. And there would be room to pack gear and food. Thanks, Joe
________________________________ From: Patrick Wiggins <paw@wirelessbeehive.com> To: utah astronomy listserve utah astronomy < utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, April 6, 2012 10:11 PM Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Sieg's eclipse site scouting trip
Siegfried is having trouble posting to the list so I'm forwarding this to the list for him.
patrick
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> Bruno & I took a drive to Kannaraville, Newcastle, Modena & Parowan today. We met with Dave Ence, Kanarraville city clerk, and he told us where the prepared site is and their preparations and expectations. They have been contacted by NASA and were told to expect upwards of 5,000 people. > > For that number they are woefully unprepared. My size estimate of the site is about 10 acres (more or less). We drove the perimeter and it came out to .5 miles. One fourth of that is 1/8th mile or 660 feet. Square that and it comes out mathematically to exactly 10 acres. But remember our size is a rough estimate, sort of like me estimating concrete. (There's a joke in there) > > 5,000 people would mean 1,500 to 2,000 cars. If you allow 1,000 square feet per car that's space for roughly 435 cars. People with RV's and campers may require extra room. > > The people we met in Newcastle didn't have a clue about this event. It is an unincorporated area of Iron County. There were no officials to talk to. The electric station will be closed since it's a Sunday. There will be no facilities open in Newcastle. Yes, it has a better horizon but how much better do you need? > > Modena is a virtual ghost town. "No Trespassing" signs on houses and the one business we saw. Not exactly friendly. Also, you are closer to the west mountains. You do not want to go as far as Modena. We were told that at night it can be a scary place. > > I think the best bet, if you need facilities is Kanarraville. They will be setting up 31 porta-potties, have water and possibly food vendors. They will also have security and medical help from Iron County. > > The problem right now is that Kanarraville will be overwhelmed. They expect a minimum of 5,000 and perhaps as many as 10,000. It doesn't really matter. Anywhere near those number will be a zoo (pronounced "disaster"). In Parowan we also met with the Iron County Clerk and were given a tourist department contact in Cedar City that is working with Dave in Kanarraville. We will be contacting Dave again this week with our impression of the preparations and make some recommendations. > > Renting an RV with facilities and going near Newcastle is a real possibility. Does SLAS want to meet as a group or groups? Each to his or her own? What is the group's thinking at this point? > > Sig
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