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Re: [Utah-astronomy] nice publicity
by Joe Bauman 01 Apr '13

01 Apr '13

Re. "Michell's" -- I surrender. The spelling incorrector has won. -- Joe ------------------------------ On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 2:02 PM MDT Joe Bauman wrote: > >Hi All, Michell's Powell listed this nice listing on the Internet. -- Joe > > http://www.enjoyutah.org/2013/04/free-star-parties.html?m=1 > > >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] New Image - M82 and Jets - Homemade Astrograph
by Joe Bauman 01 Apr '13

01 Apr '13

Auto-incorrected again! I meant to say "not something." -- Joe ------------------------------ On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 1:15 PM MDT Tyler Allred wrote: > > > > >Hi all. > >I just posted a new image on my website. It is M82 with the hydrogen alpha >jets. It looks like an exploding cigar! > >If you are interested, take a look at the link below... > > > >http://www.allred-astro.com//viewer.php?id=117 ><http://www.allred-astro.com/viewer.php?id=117&cat=1&sub=98> &cat=1&sub=98 > > > >Cheers, > >Tyler > >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".

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Fw: Question: Is there anyone in Utah that has gotten good results for Jupiter with the Celestron NexImage5 ?
by Richard Tenney 01 Apr '13

01 Apr '13

This got sent to "utah-astronomy-owner" instead of the list (why it's being forwarded). Make sure the OP is in the TO: line of any responses. Thanks! /R ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Robert Morstadt <morstadt(a)brigham.net> To: utah-astronomy-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 1:05 PM Subject: Question: Is there anyone in Utah that has gotten good results for Jupiter with the Celestron NexImage5 ? Is there anyone in Utah that has gotten good results for Jupiter with the Celestron NexImage5 device? I have seen results claimed for the NexImage5 that are much better than what I have. The Celestron staff help is very brief and basic. Thanks, Bob Morstadt Brigham City

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FW: Re: Cloudy
by Joe Bauman 01 Apr '13

01 Apr '13

This is nuts. I just tried to correct my comment -- so that it says hates and not hares -- but the autochecker changed it again. This time it's right. ----Forwarded Message---- From: josephmbauman(a)yahoo.com To: utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Sun, Mar 31, 2013 5:59 PM MDT Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Cloudy Oops, hares not hares. ------------------------------ On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 3:16 PM MDT Joe Bauman wrote: > > > >She is just extremely shy, a bit afraid of crowds, and hares drawing attention. Knowing her I suspect it would be much more scary if she were being taped. Thanks, Joe > >------------------------------ >On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 2:52 PM MDT erikhansen(a)thebluezone.net wrote: > > Geez Joe, I was relaying what I recalled about the survey done. I assure >you there was a survey, I stuffed, addressed and stamped the envelopes. >I have no problem with the speakers we are getting, it was the >membership that expressed otherwise, and a few years ago. The court of >law comment was to relay the sentiment that recording a speaker at >meeting is no big deal. It has happened before. > >Cory was afraid to ask a question without a recording going on. Right? So >was it because of the speaker or the SLAS crowd? > >Erik > I won't argue anymore on such a goofy topic. No, I'm not angry. But I am > annoyed when someone attacks my feelings by saying, direct quote, "It > seems a little like Joe thinks SLAS meetings are a court of law." That's > an absurd mischaracterization of what I said. I said people would be > uncomfortable with being videotaped. Sorry that this causes you to take > such umbrage, Erik. Exactly what statement was critical of Rodger and the > job he has done? What about this statement? "... but people are more > comfortable asking questions of peers and less expert speakers." Or this, > "The fact remains we used to have more participation in club > presentations." That isn't criticism? Now I won't immitate your rhetorical > silliness by repeatedly calling you Sir, but I do wish you would respect > my right as a club member to express my opinion. And I wish you would > understand what you are saying. You came down on me in a pretty sharp > retort when I expressed my feelings about > the discomfort I and others would feel about videotaping, then somehow > shoehorned that into strange criticisms of the speakers program that > Rodger works on, then throw a bunch of "Sirs" at me and say I have an > anger problem.....O -- Kay, if that's the way you see it. I won't respond > again. -- Joe > > ------------------------------ > On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 9:11 AM MDT erikhansen(a)thebluezone.net wrote: > > And exactly what statement was critical of Roger and the job he has >done? You have an anger problem sir. This is the exact problem I am >talking about, a member makes an observation and a board member gets >angry. Represent your membership sir! I have served on the board 8 >times. How many times have you? The fact remains we used to have more >member participation in club presentations. > >The survey was done by Bob Moore as I recall. > > When was that survey? I don't remember any such survey. Maybe you > should > run for president, Erik. Personally, I think Rodger is performing > splendidly in the jobs he was elected to do, inclulding arranging > speakers. It's easy to criticize the work others do. -- Joe > > ------------------------------ > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 4:53 PM MDT erikhansen(a)thebluezone.net wrote: > > Seems there was a survey. People stated they were uncomfortable with > the >expert speakers we had at meetings and wished for more lay >presentations. They were intimidated by the quality of our speakers and >are more comfortable with lay speakers. The atmosphere may not be as >casual as you perceive it to be, putting aside some outbursts in past >meetings and board meetings. > >To be clear, Roger and past presidents have gotten and continue to get >good interesting speakers but people are more comfortable asking > questions >of peers and less expert speakers. Some speakers have a more interactive >approach and invite questions others prefer to field questions after. > The >former may not be a good type to record, the speaker is probably the > best >judge of that. Speakers that do extended the invitation generally are >engaging people who naturally put people at ease. I really don't see how > a >camera trained on the speaker changes that. > >SLAS had a what seemed like a tradition that got lost. We used to have >each board member be responsible for one meetings speaker and content. >That did mix things up a little more, but I certainly would utilize the >great speakers we get from USU, Weber, and the U of U. Guess I should >mention BYU. > >Erik > > > >I > > > Would you stop the videotaping whenever someone in audience follows up > on > the speaker's invitation and asks a question? > > ------------------------------ > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 2:22 PM MDT erikhansen(a)thebluezone.net wrote: > > I hardly think we should or would record everything. I made a comment >you don't understand, and you made one I don't. Get some empathy >yourself, I saw no difference in SLAS meetings that the speaker was >recorded. > >Erik > > My point is not remotely related to the issues of courtroom cameras. > It > was simply that the casual atmosphere we enjoy at club meetings would > be > chilled if someone were recording everything. I doubt I am the only > member > who would be hesitant to ask the speaker a question if it were > videotaped. > I might need help to understand something that is obvious to everyone > else, but not want to look like a fool on some video. I know when Cory > has > a question I often need to urge her to put up her hand because she is > shy. > Why that situation is hard for you to understand mystified me. Don't > pull > courtroom cameras into the discussion, just try a little empathy. -- > Joe > > > > ------------------------------ > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 8:48 AM MDT erikhansen(a)thebluezone.net wrote: > > You're right Joe, I do not understand your comment. I've been recorded >during presentations and it felt no different than not being recorded. >You know the material or you don't. What is the phrase? There are no >stupid questions, only stupid answers. I think the biggest issue was > the >cost of the equipment and storing the recordings. > > HUH? Like a court of law? Man, what an amazing misintrepation of my > comment! > > > > ------------------------------ > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 5:26 PM MDT erikhansen(a)thebluezone.net wrote: > >It sounds a little like Joe thinks SLAS meetings are a court of law, I >doubt recording changes anything. It has been discussed before, buying >the equipment etc..... but never gets off the ground. >They're have been meetings worth recording. Recording would leave > little >doubt about intellectual property. > > > > I certainly understand that point-of-view, Joe. It also requires a > level > of committment that may be hard to stick with in the long run. > Although > that solar lecture would have been a very good one to archive. > How would you feel if someone recorded a meeting on their own, with > the > speaker's permission? Is SLAS permission needed? > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Joe Bauman <josephmbauman(a)yahoo.com> > wrote: > > I would be uncomfortable with that level of scrutiny. Every time > someone > made a joke or asked a dumb question, it would be recorded. I prefer > not > to > do video on a regular basis, but to keep our club casual. If we have a > notable speaker from out-of-town, who would be getting a fee of some > kind, > that might be worth recording -- if the speaker agrees. 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Re: [Utah-astronomy] The sun 3-30-2013
by Joe Bauman 31 Mar '13

31 Mar '13

Why thank you, Dan! I'm as honored as I'd come across a mile-high statue of myself! ------------------------------ On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 6:51 PM MDT Daniel Holmes wrote: >Joe knows where his towel is...my hat is off to you, you hoopy frood. > >Dan > >-- >Sent from an iPad. There should be less mispelings, but more errors. > >On Mar 31, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> DON'T PANIC >> On Mar 31, 2013 6:07 PM, "Joe Bauman" <josephmbauman(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> It works for the Bug Blatter Beast. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 5:56 PM MDT Chuck Hards wrote: >> >>> Ah, the old "You can't see me 'cause I have my eyes closed" argument. >>> On Mar 31, 2013 5:51 PM, "Daniel Holmes" <danielh(a)holmesonics.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Sure it does. If you are covered by a cloth so people can't see you >> using >>> a binoviewer, then people can't point out that your pupils are too >> small to >>> make it easy. >>> >>> Dan >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my iPhone. Please pardon any mispelings or errors. >>> >>> On Mar 31, 2013, at 5:38 PM, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> You guys understand that glare reduction and shading the observer has >>>> nothing to do with the difficulties of using a binoviewer in daylight, >>>> right? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >>>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >>>> >>>> Send messages to the list to >>>> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >>>> >>>> The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy >>> club. >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe go to: >>>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >>>> Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >>> "Unsubscribe or edit options". >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >>> >>> Send messages to the list to >>> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >>> >>> The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy >> club. >>> >>> To unsubscribe go to: >>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >>> Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >>> "Unsubscribe or edit options". >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >>> >>> Send messages to the list to >>> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >>> >>> The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. >>> >>> To unsubscribe go to: >>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >>> Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> >> Send messages to the list to >> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club.. >> >> To unsubscribe go to: >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> _______________________________________________ >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> >> Send messages to the list to >> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. >> >> To unsubscribe go to: >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options". > >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] The sun 3-30-2013
by Joe Bauman 31 Mar '13

31 Mar '13

It works for the Bug Blatter Beast. ------------------------------ On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 5:56 PM MDT Chuck Hards wrote: >Ah, the old "You can't see me 'cause I have my eyes closed" argument. > On Mar 31, 2013 5:51 PM, "Daniel Holmes" <danielh(a)holmesonics.com> wrote: > >> Sure it does. If you are covered by a cloth so people can't see you using >> a binoviewer, then people can't point out that your pupils are too small to >> make it easy. >> >> Dan >> >> -- >> Sent from my iPhone. Please pardon any mispelings or errors. >> >> On Mar 31, 2013, at 5:38 PM, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > You guys understand that glare reduction and shading the observer has >> > nothing to do with the difficulties of using a binoviewer in daylight, >> > right? >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> > >> > Send messages to the list to >> > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> > >> > The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy >> club. >> > >> > To unsubscribe go to: >> > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> > Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> >> Send messages to the list to >> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. >> >> To unsubscribe go to: >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Cloudy
by Joe Bauman 31 Mar '13

31 Mar '13

Oops, hares not hares. ------------------------------ On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 3:16 PM MDT Joe Bauman wrote: > > > >She is just extremely shy, a bit afraid of crowds, and hares drawing attention. Knowing her I suspect it would be much more scary if she were being taped. Thanks, Joe > >------------------------------ >On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 2:52 PM MDT erikhansen(a)thebluezone.net wrote: > >> Geez Joe, I was relaying what I recalled about the survey done. I assure >>you there was a survey, I stuffed, addressed and stamped the envelopes. >>I have no problem with the speakers we are getting, it was the >>membership that expressed otherwise, and a few years ago. The court of >>law comment was to relay the sentiment that recording a speaker at >>meeting is no big deal. It has happened before. >> >>Cory was afraid to ask a question without a recording going on. Right? So >>was it because of the speaker or the SLAS crowd? >> >>Erik >> I won't argue anymore on such a goofy topic. No, I'm not angry. But I am >> annoyed when someone attacks my feelings by saying, direct quote, "It >> seems a little like Joe thinks SLAS meetings are a court of law." That's >> an absurd mischaracterization of what I said. I said people would be >> uncomfortable with being videotaped. Sorry that this causes you to take >> such umbrage, Erik. Exactly what statement was critical of Rodger and the >> job he has done? What about this statement? "... but people are more >> comfortable asking questions of peers and less expert speakers." Or this, >> "The fact remains we used to have more participation in club >> presentations." That isn't criticism? Now I won't immitate your rhetorical >> silliness by repeatedly calling you Sir, but I do wish you would respect >> my right as a club member to express my opinion. And I wish you would >> understand what you are saying. You came down on me in a pretty sharp >> retort when I expressed my feelings about >> the discomfort I and others would feel about videotaping, then somehow >> shoehorned that into strange criticisms of the speakers program that >> Rodger works on, then throw a bunch of "Sirs" at me and say I have an >> anger problem.....O -- Kay, if that's the way you see it. I won't respond >> again. -- Joe >> >> ------------------------------ >> On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 9:11 AM MDT erikhansen(a)thebluezone.net wrote: >> >>> And exactly what statement was critical of Roger and the job he has >>done? You have an anger problem sir. This is the exact problem I am >>talking about, a member makes an observation and a board member gets >>angry. Represent your membership sir! I have served on the board 8 >>times. How many times have you? The fact remains we used to have more >>member participation in club presentations. >> >>The survey was done by Bob Moore as I recall. >>> >>> When was that survey? I don't remember any such survey. Maybe you >>> should >>> run for president, Erik. Personally, I think Rodger is performing >>> splendidly in the jobs he was elected to do, inclulding arranging >>> speakers. It's easy to criticize the work others do. -- Joe >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 4:53 PM MDT erikhansen(a)thebluezone.net wrote: >>> >>> Seems there was a survey. People stated they were uncomfortable with >>> the >>>expert speakers we had at meetings and wished for more lay >>>presentations. They were intimidated by the quality of our speakers and >>>are more comfortable with lay speakers. The atmosphere may not be as >>>casual as you perceive it to be, putting aside some outbursts in past >>>meetings and board meetings. >>> >>>To be clear, Roger and past presidents have gotten and continue to get >>>good interesting speakers but people are more comfortable asking >>> questions >>>of peers and less expert speakers. Some speakers have a more interactive >>>approach and invite questions others prefer to field questions after. >>> The >>>former may not be a good type to record, the speaker is probably the >>> best >>>judge of that. Speakers that do extended the invitation generally are >>>engaging people who naturally put people at ease. I really don't see how >>> a >>>camera trained on the speaker changes that. >>> >>>SLAS had a what seemed like a tradition that got lost. We used to have >>>each board member be responsible for one meetings speaker and content. >>>That did mix things up a little more, but I certainly would utilize the >>>great speakers we get from USU, Weber, and the U of U. Guess I should >>>mention BYU. >>> >>>Erik >>> >>> >>> >>>I >>> >>> >>> Would you stop the videotaping whenever someone in audience follows up >>> on >>> the speaker's invitation and asks a question? >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 2:22 PM MDT erikhansen(a)thebluezone.net wrote: >>> >>> I hardly think we should or would record everything. I made a comment >>>you don't understand, and you made one I don't. Get some empathy >>>yourself, I saw no difference in SLAS meetings that the speaker was >>>recorded. >>> >>>Erik >>> >>> My point is not remotely related to the issues of courtroom cameras. >>> It >>> was simply that the casual atmosphere we enjoy at club meetings would >>> be >>> chilled if someone were recording everything. I doubt I am the only >>> member >>> who would be hesitant to ask the speaker a question if it were >>> videotaped. >>> I might need help to understand something that is obvious to everyone >>> else, but not want to look like a fool on some video. I know when Cory >>> has >>> a question I often need to urge her to put up her hand because she is >>> shy. >>> Why that situation is hard for you to understand mystified me. Don't >>> pull >>> courtroom cameras into the discussion, just try a little empathy. -- >>> Joe >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 8:48 AM MDT erikhansen(a)thebluezone.net wrote: >>> >>> You're right Joe, I do not understand your comment. I've been recorded >>>during presentations and it felt no different than not being recorded. >>>You know the material or you don't. What is the phrase? There are no >>>stupid questions, only stupid answers. I think the biggest issue was >>> the >>>cost of the equipment and storing the recordings. >>> >>> HUH? Like a court of law? Man, what an amazing misintrepation of my >>> comment! >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 5:26 PM MDT erikhansen(a)thebluezone.net wrote: >>> >>>It sounds a little like Joe thinks SLAS meetings are a court of law, I >>>doubt recording changes anything. It has been discussed before, buying >>>the equipment etc..... but never gets off the ground. >>>They're have been meetings worth recording. Recording would leave >>> little >>>doubt about intellectual property. >>> >>> >>> >>> I certainly understand that point-of-view, Joe. It also requires a >>> level >>> of committment that may be hard to stick with in the long run. >>> Although >>> that solar lecture would have been a very good one to archive. >>> How would you feel if someone recorded a meeting on their own, with >>> the >>> speaker's permission? Is SLAS permission needed? >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Joe Bauman <josephmbauman(a)yahoo.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I would be uncomfortable with that level of scrutiny. Every time >>> someone >>> made a joke or asked a dumb question, it would be recorded. I prefer >>> not >>> to >>> do video on a regular basis, but to keep our club casual. If we have a >>> notable speaker from out-of-town, who would be getting a fee of some >>> kind, >>> that might be worth recording -- if the speaker agrees. 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Re: [Utah-astronomy] The sun 3-30-2013
by Joe Bauman 31 Mar '13

31 Mar '13

Back when I did a lot of solar viewing and photography with an 8" I used to cover my head and the end of the scope with a blanket. Often it got pretty hot. -- Joe ------------------------------ On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 1:58 PM MDT erikhansen(a)thebluezone.net wrote: >>I was not referring to air temp but rather being shielded from the suns >glare, although a big umbrella with a hole in it was nice on hot days. >With a brimmed hat I was always bumping the eyepiece. Of course, the >drawback is you need a sturdy mount. > > > Erik, the problem with the binoviewer in daylight isn't one of comfort. >> Yesterday was on the cool side and quite pleasureable. I wear a brimmed >> had when observing the sun, and have been known to set up in the shadow of >> a building when the geometry works out. >> >> The difficulty with a binoviewer in daylight is that the pupils of your >> eyes are as small as they ever get. Combine that with long eye relief of >> a >> low-power eyepiece and a small exit pupil from high power (thanks to the >> relay Barlows) and a small objective aperture, and you have two very small >> "sweet spots" that you have to align perfectly in order to use the >> binoviewer. >> >> The net result is a pair of very small virtual images floating far from >> the >> eyepieces, that have to align perfectly with a pair of small eyeball >> openings. Inter-occular spacing must be dead-on, and your head placement >> must be dead-on. A shift of only a millimeter or two means you lose one >> or >> both sides of the image. >> >> Can you hold your head still within a millimeter for 10 to 30 seconds? I >> find it VERY difficult if not impossible, outdoors perched on a chair. >> >> A sun shade won't affect this problem much, if any. Your pupils will >> still >> be very small and most folks don't have the body control of a Hindu yoga >> master. >> >> Using large aperture will help. That will increase the size of the final >> exit pupil, so even if the observer's pupils are completey contracted, >> there is more "wiggle room" for head positioning. That's why at SPOC, I'd >> rather use a binoviewer on the Andy scope for public viewing, than on a >> PST >> or double-stack. And a double-stack image is inherently dimmer than the >> PST in the first place. In a binoviewer it would be even dimmer. >> >> Unless your solar imaging system provides a large exit pupil, binoviewers >> are much easier to use at night, when your entrance pupil is open 5 to >> 7mm. Head placement is not as critical, by a long shot. >> >> On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 9:01 AM, <erikhansen(a)thebluezone.net> wrote: >> >> >I've always found a big sun shield to be essential for pleasurable sun >> viewing. >> >> >> >> Here's the pic of the PST/binoviewer setup, on my small GEM: >> > >> > >> http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii24/JethroTull1958/ATM/PSTampbinoviewer… >> > >> > It was pretty neat seeing the sun in H-a with both eyes, a first for >> me. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> >> Send messages to the list to >> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. >> >> To unsubscribe go to: >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".

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Beta Scorpii reappearance
by Thomas Sevcik 31 Mar '13

31 Mar '13

Did anyone see the reappearance of Beta Scorpii from behind the dark rim of the waning gibbous Moon this morning? I woke up from a nap around 1:50 a.m. this morning and ran outside with my 10x50 Minolta binos. I might of missed the reappearance by a minute or two but, Wow! I didn't expect Beta to stand out so bright as it did. Being at mag 2.6, any glare from the Moon sure didn't diminish this little double-star gem. Tom Sevcik

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Cloudy
by Joe Bauman 31 Mar '13

31 Mar '13

She is just extremely shy, a bit afraid of crowds, and hares drawing attention. Knowing her I suspect it would be much more scary if she were being taped. Thanks, Joe ------------------------------ On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 2:52 PM MDT erikhansen(a)thebluezone.net wrote: >> Geez Joe, I was relaying what I recalled about the survey done. I assure >you there was a survey, I stuffed, addressed and stamped the envelopes. >I have no problem with the speakers we are getting, it was the >membership that expressed otherwise, and a few years ago. The court of >law comment was to relay the sentiment that recording a speaker at >meeting is no big deal. It has happened before. > >Cory was afraid to ask a question without a recording going on. Right? So >was it because of the speaker or the SLAS crowd? > >Erik >> I won't argue anymore on such a goofy topic. No, I'm not angry. But I am >> annoyed when someone attacks my feelings by saying, direct quote, "It >> seems a little like Joe thinks SLAS meetings are a court of law." That's >> an absurd mischaracterization of what I said. I said people would be >> uncomfortable with being videotaped. Sorry that this causes you to take >> such umbrage, Erik. Exactly what statement was critical of Rodger and the >> job he has done? What about this statement? "... but people are more >> comfortable asking questions of peers and less expert speakers." Or this, >> "The fact remains we used to have more participation in club >> presentations." That isn't criticism? Now I won't immitate your rhetorical >> silliness by repeatedly calling you Sir, but I do wish you would respect >> my right as a club member to express my opinion. And I wish you would >> understand what you are saying. You came down on me in a pretty sharp >> retort when I expressed my feelings about >> the discomfort I and others would feel about videotaping, then somehow >> shoehorned that into strange criticisms of the speakers program that >> Rodger works on, then throw a bunch of "Sirs" at me and say I have an >> anger problem.....O -- Kay, if that's the way you see it. I won't respond >> again. -- Joe >> >> ------------------------------ >> On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 9:11 AM MDT erikhansen(a)thebluezone.net wrote: >> >>> And exactly what statement was critical of Roger and the job he has >>done? You have an anger problem sir. This is the exact problem I am >>talking about, a member makes an observation and a board member gets >>angry. Represent your membership sir! I have served on the board 8 >>times. How many times have you? The fact remains we used to have more >>member participation in club presentations. >> >>The survey was done by Bob Moore as I recall. >>> >>> When was that survey? I don't remember any such survey. Maybe you >>> should >>> run for president, Erik. Personally, I think Rodger is performing >>> splendidly in the jobs he was elected to do, inclulding arranging >>> speakers. It's easy to criticize the work others do. -- Joe >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 4:53 PM MDT erikhansen(a)thebluezone.net wrote: >>> >>> Seems there was a survey. People stated they were uncomfortable with >>> the >>>expert speakers we had at meetings and wished for more lay >>>presentations. They were intimidated by the quality of our speakers and >>>are more comfortable with lay speakers. The atmosphere may not be as >>>casual as you perceive it to be, putting aside some outbursts in past >>>meetings and board meetings. >>> >>>To be clear, Roger and past presidents have gotten and continue to get >>>good interesting speakers but people are more comfortable asking >>> questions >>>of peers and less expert speakers. Some speakers have a more interactive >>>approach and invite questions others prefer to field questions after. >>> The >>>former may not be a good type to record, the speaker is probably the >>> best >>>judge of that. Speakers that do extended the invitation generally are >>>engaging people who naturally put people at ease. I really don't see how >>> a >>>camera trained on the speaker changes that. >>> >>>SLAS had a what seemed like a tradition that got lost. We used to have >>>each board member be responsible for one meetings speaker and content. >>>That did mix things up a little more, but I certainly would utilize the >>>great speakers we get from USU, Weber, and the U of U. Guess I should >>>mention BYU. >>> >>>Erik >>> >>> >>> >>>I >>> >>> >>> Would you stop the videotaping whenever someone in audience follows up >>> on >>> the speaker's invitation and asks a question? >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 2:22 PM MDT erikhansen(a)thebluezone.net wrote: >>> >>> I hardly think we should or would record everything. I made a comment >>>you don't understand, and you made one I don't. Get some empathy >>>yourself, I saw no difference in SLAS meetings that the speaker was >>>recorded. >>> >>>Erik >>> >>> My point is not remotely related to the issues of courtroom cameras. >>> It >>> was simply that the casual atmosphere we enjoy at club meetings would >>> be >>> chilled if someone were recording everything. I doubt I am the only >>> member >>> who would be hesitant to ask the speaker a question if it were >>> videotaped. >>> I might need help to understand something that is obvious to everyone >>> else, but not want to look like a fool on some video. I know when Cory >>> has >>> a question I often need to urge her to put up her hand because she is >>> shy. >>> Why that situation is hard for you to understand mystified me. Don't >>> pull >>> courtroom cameras into the discussion, just try a little empathy. -- >>> Joe >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 8:48 AM MDT erikhansen(a)thebluezone.net wrote: >>> >>> You're right Joe, I do not understand your comment. I've been recorded >>>during presentations and it felt no different than not being recorded. >>>You know the material or you don't. What is the phrase? There are no >>>stupid questions, only stupid answers. I think the biggest issue was >>> the >>>cost of the equipment and storing the recordings. >>> >>> HUH? Like a court of law? Man, what an amazing misintrepation of my >>> comment! >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 5:26 PM MDT erikhansen(a)thebluezone.net wrote: >>> >>>It sounds a little like Joe thinks SLAS meetings are a court of law, I >>>doubt recording changes anything. It has been discussed before, buying >>>the equipment etc..... but never gets off the ground. >>>They're have been meetings worth recording. Recording would leave >>> little >>>doubt about intellectual property. >>> >>> >>> >>> I certainly understand that point-of-view, Joe. It also requires a >>> level >>> of committment that may be hard to stick with in the long run. >>> Although >>> that solar lecture would have been a very good one to archive. >>> How would you feel if someone recorded a meeting on their own, with >>> the >>> speaker's permission? Is SLAS permission needed? >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Joe Bauman <josephmbauman(a)yahoo.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I would be uncomfortable with that level of scrutiny. Every time >>> someone >>> made a joke or asked a dumb question, it would be recorded. I prefer >>> not >>> to >>> do video on a regular basis, but to keep our club casual. If we have a >>> notable speaker from out-of-town, who would be getting a fee of some >>> kind, >>> that might be worth recording -- if the speaker agrees. But otherwise >>> I'm >>> sure many of us would feel a dramatic chill fall across our >>> spontaneity. >>> Thanks, Joe >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >>> >>> Send messages to the list to >>> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >>> >>> The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy >>> club. >>> >>> To unsubscribe go to: >>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >>> Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >>> "Unsubscribe or edit options". >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Utah-Astronomy mailing list >>>http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >>> >>>Send messages to the list to >>>Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >>> >>>The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy >>> club. >>> >>>To 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