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A descriptive analogy for Brent
by Chuck Hards 17 May '02

17 May '02

See if this helps: You know how the moon "librates"? Rocks a bit during it's orbit...first we see a little bit further around the limb on one side, then a few days or weeks later, we see a little bit further around the other limb? Stereo vision is like seeing both libration extremes simultaneously; with all 3-dimensional objects. It's not an illusion; it's witchcraft. ;) Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com

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Binopalooza Scheduled!
by Chuck Hards 17 May '02

17 May '02

OK, ladies and gentlemen, the premier binocular-astronomy event of the season has been scheduled for the evening of Thursday, June 13th at the Lakeside site. Hopefully this is enough notice for working stiffs (like me) to schedule the next day off. The summer Milky Way will be straddling the meridian, with Autumn objects coming into view later in the evening. A waxing crescent moon will set just about the time that all traces of summer twilight vanish. Thursday night should also mean less traffic on I-80 than a weekend night (better driving conditions, less automobile light-pollution from the highway.) Bring your binocular observing set-ups, we will be taking pictures for inclusion in various resource venues and newsletters. Telescopes are welcome, but for this night, binoculars will be center-stage. Club officers, please let your respective memberships know about this gathering! Weather permitting, of course. Rain before the event will turn the Lakeside site into an impossible mudhole. Be there or be square! (er, parallelogram...) Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Binopalooza Scheduled!
by RStmarie＠aol.com 17 May '02

17 May '02

Brent, Just curious if those "Aircraft Carrier Bino's" had an IR anti-laser coating? As you know, IR lasers are often used for range finders for guns on ships, tanks, and planes, and can be strong enough to damage unprotected eyes. Just wondering, Bob St. Marie

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RE: [Utah-astronomy] Binopalooza re-sched?
by David Dunn 16 May '02

16 May '02

They don't take reservations for the campsites. We get a permit to set up our scopes in a meadow next to the campground. We usually do invite the people in the campground out to look through the scopes. It helps to get rid of some of the lanterns and the general public usually wont stay more than an hour or so. -----Original Message----- From: Steinicke, Brett [mailto:bsteinic@enterasys.com] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 11:35 AM To: 'utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com' Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] Binopalooza re-sched? Have you reserved some sites/group site for camping July 11-13? Brett Steinicke -----Original Message----- From: David Dunn [ mailto:david.dunn@albertsons.com <mailto:david.dunn@albertsons.com> ] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 11:18 AM To: 'utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com' Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] Binopalooza re-sched? Probably an hour and half from SLC. It takes about 45 minutes to get there from Layton. It is up in the mountains between Huntsville and Woodruff. It is on Highway 39. The mountain is called Monte Cristo and there is a campground on the top that has the same name. I have gone observing without camping there but it is nice to just go to bed at the end of the session. -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Hards [ mailto:chuckhards@yahoo.com <mailto:chuckhards@yahoo.com> ] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 10:49 AM To: utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] Binopalooza re-sched? I am limited to about an hour's drive from Salt Lake, and no overnighters. Where the heck is Monte Cristo? Chuck --- David Dunn <david.dunn(a)albertsons.com> wrote: > I don't think that it would be practical to > reschedule the meeting. Only 5 > or 10 members would come to the Binopalooza anyway. > If you do end out > rescheduling in July, we could do it on 11th thru > the 13th at Monte Cristo. > Both SLAS and OAS are planning to be there that > week. It would provide us > with a dark sky and about 4000 feet less atmosphere > to look through. > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck Hards [ mailto:chuckhards@yahoo.com <mailto:chuckhards@yahoo.com> ] > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 10:09 AM > To: Utah-Astro > Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Binopalooza re-sched? > > > Ive had a few more messages from Ogdenites who don't > want to make Binopalooza on the 13th. > > May I suggest that, if no guest-speaker was > arrainged, > could the meeting be held AT the bino-party? > > I'm open to a re-sched., but I can't make it any > earlier myself, and that particular Friday I would > have to leave before moon-set. Not really worth it. > > I suppose July would work. > > Opinions please, and quick! > > Chuck > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com <http://launch.yahoo.com> > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy <http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy> > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy <http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com <http://launch.yahoo.com> _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy <http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy> _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy <http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy>

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RE: [Utah-astronomy] Binopalooza re-sched?
by Steinicke, Brett 16 May '02

16 May '02

Have you reserved some sites/group site for camping July 11-13? Brett Steinicke -----Original Message----- From: David Dunn [mailto:david.dunn@albertsons.com] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 11:18 AM To: 'utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com' Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] Binopalooza re-sched? Probably an hour and half from SLC. It takes about 45 minutes to get there from Layton. It is up in the mountains between Huntsville and Woodruff. It is on Highway 39. The mountain is called Monte Cristo and there is a campground on the top that has the same name. I have gone observing without camping there but it is nice to just go to bed at the end of the session. -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Hards [mailto:chuckhards@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 10:49 AM To: utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] Binopalooza re-sched? I am limited to about an hour's drive from Salt Lake, and no overnighters. Where the heck is Monte Cristo? Chuck --- David Dunn <david.dunn(a)albertsons.com> wrote: > I don't think that it would be practical to > reschedule the meeting. Only 5 > or 10 members would come to the Binopalooza anyway. > If you do end out > rescheduling in July, we could do it on 11th thru > the 13th at Monte Cristo. > Both SLAS and OAS are planning to be there that > week. It would provide us > with a dark sky and about 4000 feet less atmosphere > to look through. > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck Hards [mailto:chuckhards@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 10:09 AM > To: Utah-Astro > Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Binopalooza re-sched? > > > Ive had a few more messages from Ogdenites who don't > want to make Binopalooza on the 13th. > > May I suggest that, if no guest-speaker was > arrainged, > could the meeting be held AT the bino-party? > > I'm open to a re-sched., but I can't make it any > earlier myself, and that particular Friday I would > have to leave before moon-set. Not really worth it. > > I suppose July would work. > > Opinions please, and quick! > > Chuck > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy

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RE: [Utah-astronomy] Binopalooza re-sched?
by David Dunn 16 May '02

16 May '02

Probably an hour and half from SLC. It takes about 45 minutes to get there from Layton. It is up in the mountains between Huntsville and Woodruff. It is on Highway 39. The mountain is called Monte Cristo and there is a campground on the top that has the same name. I have gone observing without camping there but it is nice to just go to bed at the end of the session. -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Hards [mailto:chuckhards@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 10:49 AM To: utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] Binopalooza re-sched? I am limited to about an hour's drive from Salt Lake, and no overnighters. Where the heck is Monte Cristo? Chuck --- David Dunn <david.dunn(a)albertsons.com> wrote: > I don't think that it would be practical to > reschedule the meeting. Only 5 > or 10 members would come to the Binopalooza anyway. > If you do end out > rescheduling in July, we could do it on 11th thru > the 13th at Monte Cristo. > Both SLAS and OAS are planning to be there that > week. It would provide us > with a dark sky and about 4000 feet less atmosphere > to look through. > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chuck Hards [mailto:chuckhards@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 10:09 AM > To: Utah-Astro > Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Binopalooza re-sched? > > > Ive had a few more messages from Ogdenites who don't > want to make Binopalooza on the 13th. > > May I suggest that, if no guest-speaker was > arrainged, > could the meeting be held AT the bino-party? > > I'm open to a re-sched., but I can't make it any > earlier myself, and that particular Friday I would > have to leave before moon-set. Not really worth it. > > I suppose July would work. > > Opinions please, and quick! > > Chuck > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience > http://launch.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy

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RE: [Utah-astronomy] Binopalooza re-sched?
by David Dunn 16 May '02

16 May '02

I don't think that it would be practical to reschedule the meeting. Only 5 or 10 members would come to the Binopalooza anyway. If you do end out rescheduling in July, we could do it on 11th thru the 13th at Monte Cristo. Both SLAS and OAS are planning to be there that week. It would provide us with a dark sky and about 4000 feet less atmosphere to look through. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Hards [mailto:chuckhards@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 10:09 AM To: Utah-Astro Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Binopalooza re-sched? Ive had a few more messages from Ogdenites who don't want to make Binopalooza on the 13th. May I suggest that, if no guest-speaker was arrainged, could the meeting be held AT the bino-party? I'm open to a re-sched., but I can't make it any earlier myself, and that particular Friday I would have to leave before moon-set. Not really worth it. I suppose July would work. Opinions please, and quick! Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy

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Binopalooza re-sched?
by Chuck Hards 16 May '02

16 May '02

Ive had a few more messages from Ogdenites who don't want to make Binopalooza on the 13th. May I suggest that, if no guest-speaker was arrainged, could the meeting be held AT the bino-party? I'm open to a re-sched., but I can't make it any earlier myself, and that particular Friday I would have to leave before moon-set. Not really worth it. I suppose July would work. Opinions please, and quick! Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com

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bino thoughts
by Chuck Hards 16 May '02

16 May '02

I delivered the Sportsman's Guide 10x50's to Bruce Grim today. He was very impressed with the imagery as well as construction, and is ordering a pair for himself. These will be part of the inventory of SPOC-2, so SLAS members and guests will have a chance to try them out. I dropped off 2 pair. He also told me of his own experience in a side-by-side comparison of the Bears with Fujinon 16x70mm. In his opinion, the Bears were a tad sharper (!) but the Fuji's had slightly better throughput (expected from the better coatings). I had a hard time with this, but I trust Bruce's judgement in telescope matters completely, he's been doing this a lot longer than I have, and I've been in the game about 34 years now! I would like to perform a comparison myself, though. There is a difference between general quality of a product line, and the quality of individual units. Maybe he got the best Bear ever made, and a worn-out Fuji. But, who knows? I told him about our plans for Binopalooza, and he wants to attend. I also got to examine his mini-parallelogram mount. I liked the way he didn't make the arms overly-long. Some of the parallelogram mounts I've seen have a height range of 2' up to 8', and I just can't see making arms that long unless you plan to have a group of toddlers and NBA stars at the same star-party. He also used square aluminum tubing from the home improvement center, making drilling a whole lot easier. His use of double-springs eliminated the counterweight, another nice feature, plus it mounts on a standard commercial camera tripod. I found an old wooden tripod off of a Japanese refractor in my basement, and will use that as a foundation for my own mount, borrowing some of Bruce's ideas...the short arms, namely...but I think I'll use round aluminum tubing just because I've got it on-hand already. I want to have this thing done before Binopalooza. I plan to size the arms for my own use rather than "one size fits all". Hopefully Bruce will bring his set-up so everyone can see it. Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com

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bino review
by Thomas Sevcik 15 May '02

15 May '02

Richard, I have Chuck's review saved onto disk...if you'd like I can forward it to you, just let me know the place you want it sent. (I have the original Chuck had on the site as well as the one that was included in the NOVA) Also, I have a few photos from the meeting, they're in black-and-white, but you're welcomed to view and use any of them. Tom Sevcik _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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