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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Cosmos2
by Joe Bauman 04 Jun '14

04 Jun '14

Yes yes you are right, Patrick. ------------------------------ On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 2:15 PM MDT Wiggins Patrick wrote: >Um, Joe, if I'm not mistaken someone using your name posted a few minutes ago that they were not going to post about this anymore... > >Time to give it a rest. No one is changing anyone's mind here. Time for popcorn and pasta with tofu balls. > >On 04 Jun 2014, at 13:54, Joe Bauman via Utah-Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > >> What if global warming is a fact (as it has been numerous times in the past) but humans play little or no part in it, Sir? Can you state that any glibal warming, assuming it exists, is caused by humans and that's a proven fact, Sir? Can you even demonstrate that any overall global warming has occurred in the past decade, Sir? You are pretty dogmatic about it, Sir. Anyway, Sir, I long ago learned the folly in expressing any doubt, even of publicly keeping an open mind, around those who are so intollerant of opposing viewpoints. So you won't draw me out again in this forum on the controversy, Sir -- or in your opinion, this non-controversy. > >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".

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Cosmos2
by CenturyLink Customer 04 Jun '14

04 Jun '14

Jeo Zeggy called Jun an idiot. Certainly an undignified "low blow" for anyone with such a reputation as you imply. Did you really expect Jun to just "take it?" Its been stated and answered. Let it go.

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Why do you enjoy astronomy
by CenturyLink Customer 04 Jun '14

04 Jun '14

I totally concur with Rich. Thanks Ryan for the thoughful post. M81 and M82 are "faint fuzzes" and it's possible you found them but didn't recognize them. Which reminds me about my ability to find M27 - the Dumb bell Nebula. I tried using star charts, but then David Chamberlin showed me how to star hop to it. That was m@^phff years ago. I still can't find it using a chart, star hopping is the only way and I can find it in seconds. Success will come and there will be a tiny glow of well-earned pride when you do find them.

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Cosmos2
by stormcrow60＠xmission.com 04 Jun '14

04 Jun '14

Joe and Siegfried, As Paul Harvey would say... "Good Day!" Jon

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Cosmos2
by stormcrow60＠xmission.com 04 Jun '14

04 Jun '14

Siegfried Jachmann, Someone who does not accept established science data and fact, calling another person an idiot... well that certainly is the pot calling the kettle black. And I will not post links... everyone knows the real truth. In this day and age, I should not have to. Everyone knows that global warming is occurring and it is caused by humans. The only ones that don't agree, are the ones deliberately trying to obfuscate the issue. You know... the idiots. And I'm tired of having to deal with persons who can't accept this fact. We live in the 21st century. It's time we move to renewable and green energy. And don't tell me the economy will suffer. On the contrary, there is a dynamic economy just over the horizon for those that will embrace it. Look at Germany. Google it. The only ones that keep our civilization from moving forward are folks such as Siegfried. Perhaps you own stock in Exxon? I am confident the future will prove me and other like-minded folks correct, and those of shallow and backward thinking, incorrect. Let's mitigate the effects of global warming and move away from fossil fuels now! I think I got your name correct. Happy now? I mean, are we that insecure? Jon

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RCX 400 10" FS
by Brian Sheets 04 Jun '14

04 Jun '14

still looking to sell my RCX400 10" comes with all the standard accessories, as well as a JMI case, superwedge and field tripod. The power supply failed, so I've replaced it. Due to some financial issues, I've reduced the price to $2000 OBO Located in Grantsville, I'd prefer not to ship. Brian

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FSM
by CenturyLink Customer 04 Jun '14

04 Jun '14

Have spent the better part of an hour reading Chick's links. I think I may be a member in spirit. Forget the popcorn, passt a the pasta please - no extra butter though , just an extra meat ball. Jan

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Spelling Siegfried's name
by Chuck Hards 04 Jun '14

04 Jun '14

Mut, I've always liked the nickname "Chick" for Charles. It's a product of the WW2 era, though, and you just don't hear it anymore. But it's so cool, like a fighter pilot or astronaut! On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Hutchings, Mat <mat.hutchings(a)siemens.com> wrote: > LOL, I like it! > > BTW Chick, I sincerely appreciate your kind words about the ATM sessions > in your other post. > > Mut > > -----Original Message----- > From: Utah-Astronomy [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] > On Behalf Of Chuck Hards > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 9:33 AM > To: Utah Astronomy > Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Spelling Siegfried's name > > If it was spelled Seigfreid, his nickname would be Zeggy. > > Doesn't roll-off the tongue nearly as smoothly. Just sayin. ;-) > > >

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Spelling Siegfried's name
by Chuck Hards 04 Jun '14

04 Jun '14

If it was spelled Seigfreid, his nickname would be Zeggy. Doesn't roll-off the tongue nearly as smoothly. Just sayin. ;-) -Chick

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Cosmos2
by stormcrow60＠xmission.com 04 Jun '14

04 Jun '14

Seigfreid wrote: You're right Chuck, we weren't the target audience and that's why I stopped watching after the first episode. I caught snippets of another episode somewhere. I very much prefer something on the scale of "The Universe" production. That was aimed at us and it hit a home run with me. I'm with Joe on the global warming. Tyson didn't need to get into that. The entire climate change 'science' has been corrupted to support certain political goals. The aim was to produce evidence of human influence in global warming due to CO2 emissions. There has been global cooling since 1998 but CO2 has continued to increase. Funny how a beautiful theory can be destroyed by inconvenient facts. None of the computer models forecast that. All of their models have failed. I simply don't know how anyone can deny what science is telling us. The Earth is not cooling. 97% of the world's scientists agree that global warming is occurring and caused, if not exacerbated by humans. The 3% that do not agree are in the money pockets of the fossil fuel industry. Tell me Seigfried... aside from some right wing conspiracy theory that the world's scientists are trying to dupe us all for... what again now? Money? If money was the issue... hell they would just be working for the fossil fuel industry. What is the next vast scientific conspiracy? What's that now? When a scientist like Neil DeGrasse Tyson agrees with the vast, vast majority of the worlds other scientists, with all their data...along with the U.S. military and insurance companies... against your opinion... well I'm standing with the scientific consensus. Jon

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