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What's this picture?
by Patrick Wiggins 03 Jan '05

03 Jan '05

Anyone care to guess what was happening when this picture of the floor of a truck cab was taken? http://www.trilobyte.net/paw/temp/TEMP008.JPG Patrick :-)

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RE: [Utah-astronomy] What's this picture?
by David Dunn 03 Jan '05

03 Jan '05

I wonder why the Sun isn't round. I think I saw the same thing on the floor of my house. Dave

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Comet Machholz - courtesy finder charts (repost and update)
by Canopus56 02 Jan '05

02 Jan '05

The current month prime moonless viewing frame for 9:00pm-10:300pm transit of the comet has begun and will continue through Jan. 13-14. This corresponds with the comet's predicated maximum brightness on Jan. 6 through Jan. 12 and the 1st quarter moon's return on 1/13. The astrophotographic highlight will be on Jan. 8, when Comet Machholz will pass next to the Pleaides. Patrick, although the weather forecast through Jan. 8 is still "mostly cloudy" << http://weather.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/iwszone3 >>, Jan. 8 might provide a NASA ambassador and SLAS club promotional opportunity. (Or whenever the usual January storm pattern clears out.) The following are some mag 10 courtesy finder charts for January 2 through January 22, 2005: All the finder charts: http://members.csolutions.net/fisherka/astronote/finder/ To 1/2/2005 in Tau: http://members.csolutions.net/fisherka/astronote/finder/CometC2004Q2Tau1_2_… To 1/8/2005 in Tau: http://members.csolutions.net/fisherka/astronote/finder/CometC2004Q2Tau1_8_… To 1/10/2005 in Tau: http://members.csolutions.net/fisherka/astronote/finder/CometC2004Q2Tau1_10… To 1/18/2005 in Per: http://members.csolutions.net/fisherka/astronote/finder/CometC2004Q2Per1_18… To 1/22/2005 in Per: http://members.csolutions.net/fisherka/astronote/finder/CometC2004Q2Per1_22… To 1/22/2005 - overview 120 deg finder (horizon system at lat 41N) http://members.csolutions.net/fisherka/astronote/finder/CometC2004Q241NOver… JPL Finder Charts: http://encke.jpl.nasa.gov/charts.html Sky & Telescopes overview chart: http://skyandtelescope.com/observing/objects/comets/article_1396_1.asp Inner solar system orbital diagram at JPL by Gregorio Drayer: http://encke.jpl.nasa.gov/images/04Q2/q2-inner.gif Note the arclike structure seen at high-magnification within the central 3 arcminute core of the comet, per G. Sostero and A. Lepardo: http://encke.jpl.nasa.gov/images/04Q2/04Q2_041128_gs1.jpg from - http://encke.jpl.nasa.gov/ - Kurt __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

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Comet pix
by Patrick Wiggins 02 Jan '05

02 Jan '05

I've replaced the comet shot I did earlier tonight with a quick and dirty montage of the comet's tail. No where near Ed Kort's caliber but it was fun to do. Note how once you get away from the coma the tail becomes much more pronounced. http://www.trilobyte.net/paw/temp/TEMP007.JPG All exposures were 60 seconds. ST-237 through C-14 operating at f/3.0 making for 12' x 15' fields. Dark frames were applied but no flat field. Had hoped to do more but clouds moved in. Patrick

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Comet Machholz
by DunnDave＠aol.com 02 Jan '05

02 Jan '05

Comet Machholz is visible to the "naked eye" tonight. If you follow the V of the Hyades there is a star about 10 degrees away. The comet is about 3 fingers widths from that star a little north of the line from Hyades to the star. It is about the same brightness as the star. Dave

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Re: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Earth Change?
by astrodeb＠charter.net 01 Jan '05

01 Jan '05

I was watching the History Channel last night and they were talking about the tsunamis that hit near Hilo, HI. They established warning systems after the 1946 disaster but they "cried wolf" too many times with too many drills and sirens. When the 1960 tsunami came, people actually went out to the beach to look at the wave. And some surfers tried to surf the tsunami wave! I guess people need to be educated about deadly effects of tsunamis. Debbie > > From: diveboss(a)xmission.com > Date: 2004/12/30 Thu PM 04:49:58 MST > To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Earth Change? > > I'm the proud daddy of a brand spanking new little golden retriever puppy > who has yet to provide me ANY WARNING when it comes to 'liquid' type > disasters. hopefully she will develope that sense loooong before the one we > will rely on for detecting natural disasters. ;) > > I was stationed at Kaneohe Marine Corps Air Station for a couple years and > it seemed to me that every other palm tree housed a warning siren. In the > two years I was there, the Island of Oahu held perhaps a half dozen drills > to test the system. > > As far as this event changing the Earth, I think we would have heard from > the big observatories by now. It was reported that seismic stations around > the globe detected the Earthquake, which to some scientists suggested that > the event could have global consequences. Others said that the event was an > almost indistinguishable tap. One said it had the force of 23,000 Hiroshima > size Atomic bombs. With so many different opinions and views from the > science community, I would have to conclude that all is well... > > Guy > > > Quoting Cynthia Blue <leviblue(a)utahdogs.com>: > > > Yeah I agree... I figure if we get hit by an earthquake in the middle of > > the night, hopefully the animals will warn us before hand so our little > > brick house won't cumble and crush us all... =) > > > > > > astrodeb(a)charter.net wrote: > > > > >We need to watch our animals more closely. It seems the animals had a > > sixth sense about the coming disaster and fled to higher ground before > > the tsanami hit the beaches. > > >They reported very small animal causualties. > > >I've heard about strange behaviors of animals before earthquakes as > > well. > > > > > >Debbie > > > > > > > > >>From: Michael Carnes <moogiebird(a)earthlink.net> > > >>Date: 2004/12/30 Thu PM 01:49:55 MST > > >>To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > >>Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Earth Change? > > >> > > >>It's a whole different scale. Honolulu might have problems, but the > > >>rest of the cities are relatively small, so you'd stand a decent chance > > >>of moving the population with a few hours' notice. You don't have to > > >>go too far in most cases to pick up sufficient altitude. And of course > > >>there's a reasonable amount of civic planning, training and drills. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>But those warning sirens/stations... it seems to me that if the > > >>>Pacific Coast has all of 6 hours warning (not sure how much time they > > >>>would have though), there would be mass hysteria, and the coastal > > >>>cities are so huge, that evacuation wouldn't reasonably happen. > > >>>Cyn > > >>> > > >>> > > >>_______________________________________________ > > >>Utah-Astronomy mailing list > > >>Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > > >>http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > > >>Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Utah-Astronomy mailing list > > >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > > >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > > >Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > CH Pembroke Faded Glory NA NAJ NAC NAJ TN-N > > Elsinore Lucilla Aurelius CGC > > Angel Pumpkin Spice Lady CGC > > Spirit Chasers Spice > > > > http://www.utahdogs.com > > http://www.cynthiablue.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com >

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Please edit that reply
by Chuck Hards 01 Jan '05

01 Jan '05

The average digest lately has been only running about 5% new material. Everything else is repeated, sometimes six, seven, eight times. Please, folks, try and do some selective editing. It would help if only the particular part of the post you are answering is repeated, not the entire message or worse yet the entire thread in some cases. If your reply is general, you really don't need to retain anything of the original question, the subject line should be sufficient. If you like scanning the same thing again and again and again and again and again (you get the idea) then disregard this post. Thanks from an old astronomy & atm "armchair enthusiast". __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo

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Re: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Earth Change?
by astrodeb＠charter.net 01 Jan '05

01 Jan '05

No need to worry. The asteroid will not hit us. http://skyandtelescope.com/news/article_1417_1.asp Now back to worrying about cancer, drunk drivers, war, tsunamis, etc. Happy New Year Debbie > > From: James Helsby <cyanics(a)xmission.com> > Date: 2004/12/31 Fri PM 02:44:47 MST > To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Earth Change? > > Agreed, but isn't it the same with all warning systems. > You drill too much, too often you given warnings and sirens, and whats > the result? People forget that this is a real danger, instead, > everytime, they think it is just a warning or a major event. > > Its a strange irony, that you can practice for events like that too many > times. > > So, let my try to bring this back to astronomy... anyone been following > the 2004-MN4 asteroid story? Would a realistic early warning system for > an asteroid impact be a useful thing? Does anyone have an ideas what a > good procedure would be for a high-velocity low-mass catastrophic > asteroid impact? Run for the hills? > > Cheers, > James. > > Ps... HAPPY 2005 Everyone! > > > astrodeb(a)charter.net wrote: > > >I was watching the History Channel last night and they were talking about the tsunamis that hit near Hilo, HI. They established warning systems after the 1946 disaster but they "cried wolf" too many times with too many drills and sirens. When the 1960 tsunami came, people actually went out to the beach to look at the wave. And some surfers tried to surf the tsunami wave! I guess people need to be educated about deadly effects of tsunamis. > > > >Debbie > > > > > >>From: diveboss(a)xmission.com > >>Date: 2004/12/30 Thu PM 04:49:58 MST > >>To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > >>Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Earth Change? > >> > >>I'm the proud daddy of a brand spanking new little golden retriever puppy > >>who has yet to provide me ANY WARNING when it comes to 'liquid' type > >>disasters. hopefully she will develope that sense loooong before the one we > >>will rely on for detecting natural disasters. ;) > >> > >>I was stationed at Kaneohe Marine Corps Air Station for a couple years and > >>it seemed to me that every other palm tree housed a warning siren. In the > >>two years I was there, the Island of Oahu held perhaps a half dozen drills > >>to test the system. > >> > >>As far as this event changing the Earth, I think we would have heard from > >>the big observatories by now. It was reported that seismic stations around > >>the globe detected the Earthquake, which to some scientists suggested that > >>the event could have global consequences. Others said that the event was an > >>almost indistinguishable tap. One said it had the force of 23,000 Hiroshima > >>size Atomic bombs. With so many different opinions and views from the > >>science community, I would have to conclude that all is well... > >> > >>Guy > >> > >> > >>Quoting Cynthia Blue <leviblue(a)utahdogs.com>: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Yeah I agree... I figure if we get hit by an earthquake in the middle of > >>>the night, hopefully the animals will warn us before hand so our little > >>>brick house won't cumble and crush us all... =) > >>> > >>> > >>>astrodeb(a)charter.net wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>We need to watch our animals more closely. It seems the animals had a > >>>> > >>>> > >>>sixth sense about the coming disaster and fled to higher ground before > >>>the tsanami hit the beaches. > >>> > >>> > >>>>They reported very small animal causualties. > >>>>I've heard about strange behaviors of animals before earthquakes as > >>>> > >>>> > >>>well. > >>> > >>> > >>>>Debbie > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>From: Michael Carnes <moogiebird(a)earthlink.net> > >>>>>Date: 2004/12/30 Thu PM 01:49:55 MST > >>>>>To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > >>>>>Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Earth Change? > >>>>> > >>>>>It's a whole different scale. Honolulu might have problems, but the > >>>>>rest of the cities are relatively small, so you'd stand a decent chance > >>>>>of moving the population with a few hours' notice. You don't have to > >>>>>go too far in most cases to pick up sufficient altitude. And of course > >>>>>there's a reasonable amount of civic planning, training and drills. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>But those warning sirens/stations... it seems to me that if the > >>>>>>Pacific Coast has all of 6 hours warning (not sure how much time they > >>>>>>would have though), there would be mass hysteria, and the coastal > >>>>>>cities are so huge, that evacuation wouldn't reasonably happen. > >>>>>>Cyn > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>>Utah-Astronomy mailing list > >>>>>Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >>>>>http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >>>>>Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>_______________________________________________ > >>>>Utah-Astronomy mailing list > >>>>Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >>>>http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >>>>Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>-- > >>>CH Pembroke Faded Glory NA NAJ NAC NAJ TN-N > >>>Elsinore Lucilla Aurelius CGC > >>>Angel Pumpkin Spice Lady CGC > >>>Spirit Chasers Spice > >>> > >>>http://www.utahdogs.com > >>>http://www.cynthiablue.net > >>> > >>> > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>Utah-Astronomy mailing list > >>>Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >>>http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >>>Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Utah-Astronomy mailing list > >>Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >>http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >>Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Utah-Astronomy mailing list > >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com >

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RE: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Hello
by Dale Hooper 01 Jan '05

01 Jan '05

I built my observatory in 2002. There are certainly a few things that I would recommend. Here are a couple books that really helped me out: Quick Guide: Storage Sheds, ISBN 1-880029-20-0 (I found it at Lowes) How to Build Small Barns & Outbuildings, ISBN 0-88266-773-4 I borrowed a great book on the electrical work from a friend, so I could get the ISBN # to you if interested. There is a yahoo group dedicated to observatory building, it is appropriately the "Observatories" group. I've got some pictures under their photo section listed under the Calvin M. Hooper Memorial Observatory. You can probably get most of your questions answered with that group. A website with TONS of pictures of different types of observatories is located at: http://nineplanets.org/obs/obslist.html And, of course, find out about your local building ordinances, i.e. how big can it be before you need a building permit, are there deeds of covenants - where your neighbors can object to the type of building, etc., etc. Clear skies, Dale Hooper. ________________________________ From: utah-astronomy-bounces+dale.hooper=sdl.usu.edu(a)mailman.xmission.com on behalf of Richard Tenney Sent: Fri 12/31/2004 7:55 AM To: Matt Cc: UVAA; Utah-Astronomy Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Re: Hello Hey Matt, Boy that's a switch, moving from Laguna Beach to such a small town! Hope the adjustment goes well; you certainly picked the right place for darker skies. It's close to where the locals consider one of the best spots in No. Utah -- Wolf Creek summit. I look forward to meeting you and seeing your scopes. SLAS's Lowell Lyon also has a 20-inch Obsession, and he sometimes makes it up there. I personally have no experience with observatories, but others locally do, so I'm copying this reply to the local astro lists and see what kinds of responses you get. Your last name is also Francis? We may be related; my mom's maiden name is Francis (she grew up in Lake Shore/Springville area). I too grew up in So. California (San Diego area). Anyway, welcome to Utah; you'll find a lot of terrific photon-loving folks here. Regards, Rich --- Matt <mattoid(a)allwest.net> wrote: > Hi Rich, > > Congratulations on a very nice website! I really > like the personal touch of > showing photos of your members (of which I am now > one also!) with their > telescopes! > > My wife and I recently moved to Francis Utah from > Laguna Beach California. > I'm used to trailering my telescopes for 2.5 hours > to the Anza Borrego > desert for clear, dark skies. About half of the > time I set up camp in the > dry lake bed there, high altitude clouds would form > or the wind would pick > up. Still, I did enjoy many beautiful nights there > under the canopy of > stars. > > My telescopes (a 20 inch Obsession reflector and a > Meade 12 inch SCT with > SBIG ccd) are still in the trailer as we are still > unpacking and finishing > up moving in. I am looking forward to building an > observatory in my > backyard this spring and I was wondering if any of > you have any experience > with this. I want to collect as much information > and input as possible > before I begin construction. Currently I am > thinking I will build a large > shed with a roll off roof. > > Thanks for the input! > > Matt Francis > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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Re: Hello
by Richard Tenney 31 Dec '04

31 Dec '04

Hey Matt, Boy that's a switch, moving from Laguna Beach to such a small town! Hope the adjustment goes well; you certainly picked the right place for darker skies. It's close to where the locals consider one of the best spots in No. Utah -- Wolf Creek summit. I look forward to meeting you and seeing your scopes. SLAS's Lowell Lyon also has a 20-inch Obsession, and he sometimes makes it up there. I personally have no experience with observatories, but others locally do, so I'm copying this reply to the local astro lists and see what kinds of responses you get. Your last name is also Francis? We may be related; my mom's maiden name is Francis (she grew up in Lake Shore/Springville area). I too grew up in So. California (San Diego area). Anyway, welcome to Utah; you'll find a lot of terrific photon-loving folks here. Regards, Rich --- Matt <mattoid(a)allwest.net> wrote: > Hi Rich, > > Congratulations on a very nice website! I really > like the personal touch of > showing photos of your members (of which I am now > one also!) with their > telescopes! > > My wife and I recently moved to Francis Utah from > Laguna Beach California. > I'm used to trailering my telescopes for 2.5 hours > to the Anza Borrego > desert for clear, dark skies. About half of the > time I set up camp in the > dry lake bed there, high altitude clouds would form > or the wind would pick > up. Still, I did enjoy many beautiful nights there > under the canopy of > stars. > > My telescopes (a 20 inch Obsession reflector and a > Meade 12 inch SCT with > SBIG ccd) are still in the trailer as we are still > unpacking and finishing > up moving in. I am looking forward to building an > observatory in my > backyard this spring and I was wondering if any of > you have any experience > with this. I want to collect as much information > and input as possible > before I begin construction. Currently I am > thinking I will build a large > shed with a roll off roof. > > Thanks for the input! > > Matt Francis > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo

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