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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Cosmos 2G
by Joe Bauman 17 Mar '14

17 Mar '14

Will it be replayed? We had a late dinner with friends and missed it. ------------------------------ On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 11:56 AM MDT jcarman6(a)q.com wrote: > > >I thoroughly enjoyed the second installment. > > > >Having made that statement, the question is: Is anybody still watching? besides the people on this board and some extended science groupies? > > > >Consider Fox's normal audience - ultra conservative, ultra religiious, ultra right wing, so far right as to blend in and make the wall scientists keep banging their heads on. > > > >Consider Tyson's 90 second diatribe about intelligent design 20 minutes into the episode. He didn't just slap it down, he took a clenched fist to it. That's 90 seconds that could have remained on the cutting room floor. They could have padded the episode with another commercial for Noah, or Supernatural. Maybe they did - in Oklahoma. > > > >Tyson 's "no holds barred" "stand up and be counted" posit ion for science is commenda ble, but he obviously hasn't read the book "How to Win Friends and Influence People." > > > >As for the tree of life, wonderful graphic, but, considering my upbringing, the tree of life was immediately connected to Lehi's dream. Perhaps a rereading of those verses in the Book of Mormon are necessary. Perhaps the accepted interpretation is wrong. Perhaps Tyson should have called it the Tree of Knowledge from which Adam and Eve partook and were cast out of the garden. > > > >Thank goodness I won't be seeing my 40-something relatives this week. You can imagine what they will say this time about evolution and natural selection. My imagination is boiling over with lighted torches, pitchforks, hot tar and feathers. > > > >2 episodes down and 11 to go. Here's hoping (make that a feverant prayer) that WE all survive the airing of Cosmos 2G. > > > >(-- - i.e. large tongue in cheek > > >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".

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It's time for us to swing into action!
by jcarman6＠q.com 17 Mar '14

17 Mar '14

Well, if 's not on the moon - great catch 4 engines, then it must be in the Bermuda Triangle. Who knew the South China Sea had its own Bermuda Triangle. Maybe the passengers and crew with reappear in a week or two saying "huh, we just boarded the plane an hour ago."

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] It's time for us to swing into action!
by Joe Bauman 17 Mar '14

17 Mar '14

Chrismo, where've you been? I miss your comments on Facebook. ------------------------------ On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 10:23 AM MDT Chrismo wrote: >Good eye, Ed! It appears then that there may be other planes which have >been abducted and taken to the moon. Gee I love science. I wonder how >soon they'll cover this on the new "Cosmos." > >On Monday, March 17, 2014, Erik Hansen <erikhansen(a)thebluezone.net> wrote: > >> >A clear case of Alien Abduction. >> >> >> >> Too bad they landed on top of Tommy Lee Jones! 73 >> > >> > Sent from my iPad >> > >> > On Mar 16, 2014, at 7:16 PM, Chrismo <djchrismo(a)gmail.com<javascript:;> >> wrote: >> > >> > Okay Listies! >> > >> > It's time for us to come together to solve a real mystery! There's >> > enough >> > telescope power in this group to give a full examination and bring >> > answers >> > to the public. >> > >> > Check this out! http://i.imgur.com/Ee6MBIs.jpg >> > >> > Tongue planted firmly in cheek, >> > >> > Chrismo >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> > >> > Send messages to the list to >> > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com <javascript:;> >> > >> > The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy >> > club. >> > >> > To unsubscribe go to: >> > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> > Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> > "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> > >> > Send messages to the list to >> > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com <javascript:;> >> > >> > The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy >> club. >> > >> > To unsubscribe go to: >> > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> > Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> > "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> > >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> >> Send messages to the list to >> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com <javascript:;> >> >> The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. >> >> To unsubscribe go to: >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] It's time for us to swing into action!
by Joe Bauman 17 Mar '14

17 Mar '14

The aliens improved it, ala Voyager. ------------------------------ On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 4:59 AM MDT Ed wrote: >False alarm! > >The plane depicted on the Moon has 4 engines, but the missing plane, a >Boeing 777, has only two. > >Ed > >Now if I'm careful not to bite my tongue, I'll have some breakfast. :) >------------------------------ >Quoting Chrismo <djchrismo(a)gmail.com>: > >> Okay Listies! >> >> It's time for us to come together to solve a real mystery! There's enough >> telescope power in this group to give a full examination and bring answers >> to the public. >> >> Check this out! http://i.imgur.com/Ee6MBIs.jpg >> >> Tongue planted firmly in cheek, >> >> Chrismo >> _______________________________________________ >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> >> Send messages to the list to >> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. >> >> To unsubscribe go to: >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".

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My view of "Cosmos"
by Brent Watson 16 Mar '14

16 Mar '14

I finally got to watch the first episode of the program. I have to admit that I was underwhelmed. It didn't seem like there was much more content than you would get in a 5th grade science class; a bit more, but not much. But, there was a bunch of grandstanding to make up for the missing content. What content there was did not stand out. I thought the calendar exercise was interesting, but very poorly illustrated. The scale of the universe was not stressed in a fashion that brought people to a real understanding of what it really means. I believe additional graphical comparisons and relationships to things that everyday people relate to would be a significant improvement. The calendar exercise is such an idea, but was poorly executed. Why did Giordano Bruno and the folks living at that time look so dour? In some places it was effective, but the overall feeling of that time can't have been the way it was represented. And, why was Galileo mentioned only in passing? Perhaps I am being more critical than I should, but I had a hard time getting too terribly excited. I hope the next episodes exhibit an improvement.

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My View of "Cosmos"
by jcarman6＠q.com 15 Mar '14

15 Mar '14

The day before Cosmos aired, I posted on my FB page, a rare event in and of itself, a reminder that Cosmos begins and everyone young and old should watch it. The day after Cosmos aired I spoke to some 40- something relatives about whether they had seen it. He has a Ph.D. T hey are very good members of the LDS faith ( mentioned , but the outcome would have been the same if they were Catholic, Protestant or Southern Baptist - it is what it is). They said, with great pride, when Cosmos started, they turned it off, because they don't believed in the b ig b ang t heory. While they also do not believe in the 6,000 year old earth theory, they adamently denied the b ig b ang theory. Now that's a bummer! An immediate apology to many on the board because my rejoinder was not "who do you think pushed the button." - or pulled the trigger :) As public outreach as Cosm may be, it's not reaching a deaf audience. This post is not intended to start a discussion, or whatever, it's just "it is what it is."

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] time.gov website updated
by Joe Bauman 14 Mar '14

14 Mar '14

You could just go to work an hour earlier, I suppose. After all, you are one of the bosses. ------------------------------ On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 11:46 AM MDT Chuck Hards wrote: >That would be sad. One of the things I love best about summer is the late >sunsets. Helps me get a lot more done. Without DST, I'll lose 6-7 hours >per week of outdoor activity time. Dang. > > >On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Bruce Hugo <bruce.hugo(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> I heard this morning on the radio that Utah is considering going off >> daylight savings time. This might be the last year we "spring ahead"! >> >> >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] time.gov website updated
by Bruce Hugo 14 Mar '14

14 Mar '14

Bummer. I was looking for a positive spin for ya Chuck! From: Chuck Hards <chuck.hards(a)gmail.com> I'm in bed long before sundown in summer on work nights. Standard time in summer would still get me no weeknight observing. On Mar 14, 2014 1:15 PM, "Bruce Hugo" <bruce.hugo(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > Eariler sunsets mean I might be able to do a little observing during the week before I need to get to sleep for the next days work challenge. I would agree, it would feel a bid odd with earlier sunests in the summer. > >

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] time.gov website updated
by Bruce Hugo 14 Mar '14

14 Mar '14

5am!?! Holy cow! Does that time of the morning actually exist or is its existence only a nasty rumor? <smile> Eariler sunsets mean I might be able to do a little observing during the week before I need to get to sleep for the next days work challenge. I would agree, it would feel a bid odd with earlier sunests in the summer. From: Chuck Hards <chuck.hards(a)gmail.com> I already start at 5 AM. The owners discourage starts much earlier than that. ;-) > > You could just go to work an hour earlier, I suppose. After all, you are > one of the bosses. > >

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] time.gov website updated
by Bruce Hugo 14 Mar '14

14 Mar '14

I heard this morning on the radio that Utah is considering going off daylight savings time. This might be the last year we "spring ahead"!

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