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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Augh! Gotta to vent
by Joe Bauman 28 Sep '13

28 Sep '13

Well I do know a guy named August. I suppose I could steal it from him and call myself Baron August von Bauman. ------------------------------ On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 5:25 PM MDT Erik Hansen wrote: >> Are you going to grow a beard? > >Personally I'm rather fond of the moniker "Grey Beard" I earned here >> recently. :) >> >> patrick >> >> >> On 28 Sep 2013, at 13:10, Dave Gary wrote: >> >> Your “august” name? I’ve never met you, Joe, but I can imagine that you >> could have a stately name and carry it with pride. How does Baron Bauman >> strike you? It’s got a nice ring, doesn’t it? I tried to think of one >> for myself and tie it in with my nickname (Sweaty Dog), but somehow it >> doesn’t have the same punch…..Serf Sweaty. That’s all I could come up >> with. >> >> Bummer. >> >> I’m open to suggestions. >> >> Dave >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> >> Send messages to the list to >> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. >> >> To unsubscribe go to: >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Gotta to vent
by Bruce Hugo 28 Sep '13

28 Sep '13

With a nickname like that, shouldn't you be wearing a long cloak and carrying a staff? Or did I play wayyyyy too much AD&D when I was younger? :-) >Personally I'm rather fond of the moniker "Grey Beard" I earned here recently. :) >patrick

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Fwd: SpotTheStation
by Larry Holmes 28 Sep '13

28 Sep '13

Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: HQ-spotthestation(a)mail.nasa.gov > Date: September 27, 2013 at 6:57:25 PM MDT > To: United-States-Utah-Salt-Lake-City-AM(a)lists.hq.nasa.gov > Subject: SpotTheStation > > Time: Sat Sep 28 6:32 AM, Visible: 4 min, Max Height: 42 degrees, Appears: NW, Disappears: ENE

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Augh! Gotta to vent
by Bruce Hugo 28 Sep '13

28 Sep '13

Though not at "vent" level, I would have to agree the manipulation of facts by the media in the pursuit of the all mighty dollar is saddening and dilutes the trust we have in all forms of media. This attack on our trust and our belief in serious reporting of facts (no manipulation, no exaggeration) is part of the reason I've not had network television since the year 2000. Yup. 13 years. No TV. Instead, I (we) go into the night to gather our own facts from the small twinkles of light. :-) Equipped with his five senses, man explores the universe around him and calls the adventure Science. - Edwin Powell Hubble

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Augh! Gotta to vent
by John M. Craig 28 Sep '13

28 Sep '13

Patrick, you don't need to hold your breath--the comet's doing that for you ;-) S & T was much more moderate in their headlines about ISON--good for them. JMC

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] AUGH! Gotta vent
by jcarman6＠q.com 28 Sep '13

28 Sep '13

Turn down the heat boys :) Unlike the Deseret News, a daily paper, magazine layout and content are determined months in advance. (Have any of you received your November Sky & Tel yet? December? ) Three - four months ago ISON was looking more promising. The editorial staff of Astronomy threw the dice - they gambled - and, based on current projections, they lost - big time. Something along the line of "Dewey Defeats Truman." Astronomy mag may be wiping egg off its face for years to come. The real value, imho , of ISON is - it is a comet - which means the solar system is not static. Like Hale-Bopp, it was discovered a year in advance, it isn't going to hit earth, or even come near. (It could still be upstaged by an undiscovered comet appearing at the last moment - like Hyakutake). Will it be impressive, probably not, BUT it is a sun grazer. It's going to go so close to the sun it might not survive its visit. That should spark some public interest. It has certainly sparked mine. I'm hoping for its demise :)

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Augh! Gotta to vent
by Joe Bauman 28 Sep '13

28 Sep '13

"My august name"? Gee Dan I don't even know how to reply. Something is wrong and I won't try to diagnose it. I'm sorry you feel that way. -- Joe ------------------------------ On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 11:43 AM MDT daniel turner wrote: >Bruce: > >What I'm looking for is a tone that is less serious than CSPAN but not fully over the top like The Onion. You may not know that the recent angry exit by Chuck Hards has happened at least 5 times in the last 10 years that I've been on this list. No one takes it seriously any more nor should they. I was driven away from TV by O.J Simpson and I stayed away for 12 years. But now I watch it with my sense of humor engaged. > >Joe: > >Once again. Replying to your emails or even mentioning your august name does NOT constitute a personal attack. Humor is the goal hear and you are big enough to take it. I've sure seen you dish it out. > >Patrick: > As for Astronomy Magazine; print media is fading away. No one SHOULD take them seriously any more. Most people don't anyway, just because it's made of dead trees. Telling people to not bother looking assumes you know what they are expecting. Even you may be wrong about this some time. You were about comet McNaught and comet Holmes. > >DT > > > >________________________________ > From: Bruce Hugo <bruce.hugo(a)yahoo.com> >To: "utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:42 AM >Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Augh! Gotta to vent > > >Though not at "vent" level, I would have to agree the manipulation of facts by the media in the pursuit of the all mighty dollar is saddening and dilutes the trust we have in all forms of media. This attack on our trust and our belief in serious reporting of facts (no manipulation, no exaggeration) is part of the reason I've not had network television since the year 2000. Yup. 13 years. No TV. Instead, I (we) go into the night to gather our own facts from the small twinkles of light. :-) > >Equipped with his five senses, man explores the universe around him and calls the adventure Science. > - Edwin Powell Hubble >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options". >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".

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OT: IPCC report out today, it doesn't look good
by jcarman6＠q.com 28 Sep '13

28 Sep '13

Off topic???? It's science and it impacts observing time and locations and, well, human existence. I wonder how many members of this board will actually read the report you linked. No doubt you've irritated more than a few. They are the ones with their behinds in the air and their heads in the sand. Now this is what I call poor stewardship.

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Augh! Gotta to vent
by Patrick Wiggins 28 Sep '13

28 Sep '13

Anyone here seen the ad Astronomy magazine emailed out today? It's headlined "DON'T MISS The GREAT COMET OF 2013" and is hawking a "DEFINITIVE GUIDE" to the comet (their choice of upper case, not mine). They're talking about ISON, of course. I'm guessing the folks at Astronomy are not old enough to have learned the lessons of Comet Kohoutek. Ugh! patrick

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OT: IPCC report out today, forecast isn't good
by Richard Tenney 27 Sep '13

27 Sep '13

Because science... http://earthsky.org/earth/how-likely-global-warming-is-human-caused-95-says…

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