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Orion Intelliscope
by Jay Eads 30 May '13

30 May '13

When I broke up my old Orion XX14i to make a new scope, I never did anything with the Intelliscope. I have it still with all the parts and am willing to part with the parts and the controller if anyone wants it. It's free I'm saying if you think you can ATM and you can, there are sites on the web about doing it. If no one takes me up then I think come sometime this summer I will convert my own XT10 to the intelliscope for when kids at my new school assignment learn to use the scope from a pretty heavy light polluted sky. If your interested it is first come, first serve and you have to pick it up from me. I'm not driving it around. Thanks, Jay

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Scribbles? No, detail.
by Kelly Ricks 29 May '13

29 May '13

Thanks Patrick! I wasn't going to link to that post here because I thought it was a bit less serious, but I appreciate your comment. :) ~Kelly > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 16:10:08 -0600 > From: Patrick Wiggins <paw(a)wirelessbeehive.com> > To: utah astronomy listserve utah astronomy > <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: [Utah-astronomy] > Message-ID: <334F152A-EC1D-49F4-A6F0-D25C9781335D(a)wirelessbeehive.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > In her latest blog Kelly refers to them as scribbles. > > I look at her "scribble" of a lunar crater and call it detail. > > And fine detail at that. > > http://kellyricks.blogspot.com/2013/05/scribbles.html > > patrick > > >

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Sound off for Bryce!
by Chrismo 29 May '13

29 May '13

Hey All, Sound off if you're headed to Bryce Canyon next week for the Astronomy Festival. I'll be there and I'm looking forward to putting faces to names!

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Frustration at the eyepiece: help!
by Joe Bauman 29 May '13

29 May '13

Oh I like 'em all, deeply. I'm just a cantankerous 67-year-old coot. Think nothing of my occasional grumpiness. -- Joe ------------------------------ On Wed, May 29, 2013 3:26 PM MDT Richard Tenney wrote: >Joe, knowing you, Brent and Chuck, I don't believe anyone had any intention of snobbery while sharing personal perspective regarding our early years in the hobby. Please take everything said here with a grain of salt, knowing that we're all friends at the end of the day. I for one have a great deal of respect for you, FWIW. >/R > > > > >________________________________ > From: Joe Bauman <josephmbauman(a)yahoo.com> >To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 12:15 PM >Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Frustration at the eyepiece: help! > > >I do not have a learning disability. I have a difficulty involving directional orientation -- it's a mild type of dyslexia that causes people to get turned around easily but does NOT interfere with ability to learn! As far as I'm concerned it's not the same. My saying that is not an "admission" that I have a learning disability today. It's a little obstacle. When I was a child I had trouble telling a b from a d, but as a writer, that's no longer a problem. As a child I couldn't tie my shoelaces the proper way and I still just tie them using granny loops. I think I can remember not knowing left from right, but I have known that one for a very long time now. It's a particular kind of wiring problem. I also don't feel anyone should be snobby about people with no dyslexia or other problem who do not choose to learn the constellations. It's really not what astronomy is about for many. If knowing which constellation abuts another rings your bell, fine. To me >it seems like a trivial subject to invest time and energy on when you could spend the same time and energy LEARNING (as I have) about many other astronomical factors. But as they say, to each his own. -- Joe > > > > >________________________________ >From: Chuck Hards <chuck.hards(a)gmail.com> >To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 11:55 AM >Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Frustration at the eyepiece: help! > > >Joe, the difference is that you, by your admission, have a learning >disability. It's not a choice. Therefore you and those who cannot learn, >at least by the methods Brent and I are familiar with, are not the people >we were referring to. Well, speaking for myself, at least. > >If you can't (and I know you've tried), then you are not among those who >won't. > >See the difference? It wasn't directed at you. > >My humblest apology if you took it personally. > >On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Joe Bauman <josephmbauman(a)yahoo.com>wrote: > >> Also, what about this comment by you, Chuck? It sounds pretty >> condescending to me: "I know some people who don't even feel it necessary >> to learn the sky as one would become familiar with a terrestrial map, for >> example." What does that sound like, "don't even feel it necessary" -- a >> compliment? -- Joe >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Joe Bauman <josephmbauman(a)yahoo.com> >> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 11:18 AM >> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Frustration at the eyepiece: help! >> >> >> You can't, Chuck? Then you didn't read the email by Brent: "Today, when it >> is no longer necessary to learn the sky, I feel - no I know there is a >> great deal lost by those who don't take the time and >> make the sacrifice to adopt the stars as your personal friends. I >> am certain the heavens know my name, just as I know theirs." Well, I'm not >> certain the heavens know my name and I'd be creeped out if they did! -- Joe >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Chuck Hards <chuck.hards(a)gmail.com> >> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 10:56 AM >> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Frustration at the eyepiece: help! >> >> >> I can't recall anyone ever ever acting snobbish about learning the sky, >> Joe. It's what worked for some of us, and we relate our stories, but don't >> look down on anyone who doesn't. I feel sorrry for them, but don't think >> they are any less of a person. To each, his own. Like my finder method, I >> know that some people can't do it, for whatever reason, and look at me like >> I'm stupid when explaining it, but hey, it works for me. >> I do feel that for those with conditions such as dyslexia, there may yet be >> a way to become more familiar with the sky than some may think- perhaps a >> workable methodology just hasn't been thought-out yet. I am loathe to >> simply give-up and walk away from even trying. >> >> You're a bit sensitive to the issue, and perhaps rightly so- I can't walk >> in your shoes- but nobody looks down on you for that or any other reason. >> Likewise don't look down on those of us who found the sky at an early age >> and made it our own. Learning things in youth is always easier than late >> in life. >> >> Frankly, people like Rich, Brent, and myself seem to be in the minority >> these days, anyway. When I was in jr. high school, there were at least 5 >> or 6 of us who took our telescopes out in the backyard regularly- one >> friend had a 10" Essential Optics reflector! I doubt you'd find that many >> in any random jr. high these days. >> >> >> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Joe Bauman <josephmbauman(a)yahoo.com >> >wrote: >> >> > Frankly, I resent the snobbish attitudes of people who do know the night >> > sky and act as if we who don't know it that well are lazy jerks. >> _______________________________________________ >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> >> Send messages to the list to >> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. >> >> To unsubscribe go to: >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> _______________________________________________ >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> >> Send messages to the list to >> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. >> >> To unsubscribe go to: >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> _______________________________________________ >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> >> Send messages to the list to >> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. >> >> To unsubscribe go to: >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on >> "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options". >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options". >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".

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Scribbles? No, detail.
by Patrick Wiggins 29 May '13

29 May '13

In her latest blog Kelly refers to them as scribbles. I look at her "scribble" of a lunar crater and call it detail. And fine detail at that. http://kellyricks.blogspot.com/2013/05/scribbles.html patrick

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Frustration at the eyepiece: help!
by Dion Davidson 29 May '13

29 May '13

I need help with a few things that are causing frustration for me at the scope this year: Battery: I bought a Ryobi battery/light/tire pump to use as an power source for my scope. But it is always dead! Useless. Even if I charge it for 2 days prior to an event, it will be dead within minutes of using it. Suggestions for a better battery? My old Meade 2120 10 SCT uses AC power, so I use an inverter between the battery and the scope. Know of anything better for sale? Viewfinder: I have the straight-through 8x50 viewfinder that came with my scope. It works fine but I have a hard time finding stuff, especially when looking up. I'd like to get a right angle correct image viewfinder. Suggestions? Know any for sale? If I bought a non-Meade one, could someone show me how to connect it to my tube? Would I have to drill holes? Collimation: I think my scope is ok (I had it collimated at Scope City when I bought it), but I've heard other opinions from SLAS members. Could I get help from someone who knows what they are doing on a) determining if my scope needs collimation, and b) how to do it. I have read a bunch online and watched youtube videos but I'm none the wiser. Finding stuff: I would love to have a class/lesson/tutorial on how to find cool stuff in the sky. I struggle to find anything but the most basic things in the sky. Having the image inverted/upside down in my viewfinder doesn't help, and it seems I can always see more stars in the eyepiece than I can on a star chart, which makes it difficult to know if I'm in the right area. I probably need some basic instruction on star hopping and recognizing star magnitudes, fields of view, map orientation, etc. (FYI: I can usually find the moon, planets, and some familiar deep sky stuff: M8 (Lagoon), M31 (Andromeda), M13, Orion Nebula, and even M57 (ring nebula)). I spent a beautiful weekend in Montana this weekend under dark skies and spent a few hours one night looking for stuff and finding none of it! (I looked for M51, M81, M82, M101, M108. I even looked for PANSTARRS). I went back out early in the morning on another day and did see M31, M57, and got M81 and M82 in the same field of view. So, some redemption. Thanks for listening. Dion

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Ride to SPOC
by D P Pierce 29 May '13

29 May '13

* I need a SPOC fix bad! Help me out with a ride to SPOC Friday and/or Saturday.* ** *Deloy*

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Two Items
by Jay Eads 28 May '13

28 May '13

I know UA isn't a swap but I do have two items for sale. A Celestron Cheshire collimating eyepiece for 1 1/4 that I'll part with for $10.00 (you pick up from me) and I have a HoTech 1 1/4 inch laser collimator I'll part with for $40.00 If interested let me know off list at jayleads at g m a i l dot net.

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C-5 needs tuneup
by Patrick Wiggins 28 May '13

28 May '13

I've received an email from a local guy who has an old, non-computerized C-5 that needs a tuneup. Basically checking the collimation and some cleaning. Anyone here care to help? Let me know if you are and I'll put you in touch. Cheers, patrick

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] New Image Posted - The Splinter or Knife-Edge Galaxy NGC 5907 - Nocturne Observatory
by Joe Bauman 27 May '13

27 May '13

Sorry to hear it, Dave. I haven't been out this year yet because of my painful back/hips but hope to go soon. -- Joe ------------------------------ On Sun, May 26, 2013 11:54 AM MDT Dave Gary wrote: >Fantastic image Tyler. When my broken ribs heal I'll start imaging, again. As it stands, I've been sleeping in a chair for over two weeks. I've never had anything hurt so badly. Sneezing and coughing are an out-of-body experience. Have been out of the loop for awhile. However, I have found out something about myself....I'm a major pussy these days. Word of advice, don't get on a ladder when you're pushing 60. The ladder buckled underneath me. My usual cat-like reflexes failed to kick in. I fell eight feet on my back and head. Eight stitches in the back of my head. No problems there. Now I have symmetric scares on my head, front and back. No head injuries, of course. The spinal vertebrae are OK, but a couple of fractured ribs on the right backside. At least I'm back to work since yesterday. It was a new experience being transported to the hospital in an ambulance. Good thing my daughter was there to explain to the hospital personnel that I'm a jerk 24/7 and it wasn't just a medical issue causing my surly behavior. > >Dave > >Sent from my iPad > >On May 26, 2013, at 12:16 AM, Tyler Allred <tyler(a)allred-astro.com> wrote: > >> Hi All. >> >> I just posted a new galaxy image to my website. It shows the Splinter >> Galaxy, or Knife-Edge Galaxy, NGC 5907. I shot the image over two nights, >> separated by a week or so. Between sessions, I rotated my camera and forgot >> to rotate it back... DOH!! As such, the color data does not match the >> orientation of the luminance data, but it doesn't detract too much from the >> image. I collected the color data last night, with a full moon and a gusty >> wind, so it was a challenge to process, but it turned out pretty good. I >> finally feel that the scope is completely dialed in and everything is >> working beautifully. >> >> >> >> >> >> [Description from Wikipedia] NGC 5907 is a spiral galaxy located >> approximately 50 million light years from Earth. It has an anomalously low >> metallicity and few detectable giant stars, being apparently composed almost >> entirely of dwarf stars. It is a member of the NGC 5866 Group. NGC 5907 has >> long been considered a prototypical example of a warped spiral in relative >> isolation. Then in 2006, an international team of astronomers announced the >> presence of an extended tidal stream surrounding the galaxy that challenges >> this picture and suggests the gravitational perturbations induced by the >> stream progenitor may be the cause for the warp. NGC 5907 is also known at >> the Knife Edge or Splinter galaxy. The galaxy was discovered in 1788 by >> William Herschel. Supernova 1940A was in this galaxy. >> >> >> >> Here is a link to my website. Be sure to click on the image a couple of >> times to get to the full version. >> >> >> >> http://www.allred-astro.com//viewer.php?id=130 >> <http://www.allred-astro.com/viewer.php?id=130&cat=1&sub=101> &cat=1&sub=101 >> >> >> >> Comments and suggestions are always welcome. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Tyler >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> >> Send messages to the list to >> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. >> >> To unsubscribe go to: >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options". > >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".

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