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Fw: clark planetarium
by Mark Shelton 30 Sep '11

30 Sep '11

http://www.ksl.com/?sid=17274773&nid=1012

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Giant Sun Spots
by Gary Vardon 29 Sep '11

29 Sep '11

For the last few days the sun has some huge spots as compared to the size of the earth, Some of the larger spots are shaped more like dashes with rounded ends than spots. Sincerely, Gary Vardon The book DO It Right will help you understand vital ideas leading to your greater success. GO to PublishAmerica.com Consulting For Profit is also available. Learn how to make money as a consultant.

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Observing Friday Night
by Jorge Gutierrez 29 Sep '11

29 Sep '11

If you guys end up going to P&P or somewhere closer in that area give me a shout, wish I could afford to go to lakeside, but I have to get up at 6 am on saturday for work ;o

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Faster than the Speed of Light
by Canopus56 29 Sep '11

29 Sep '11

Bill, Thanks for raising this. It is something I was unaware of, and am not up to speaking to. From internet chatter about their presentation, I understand the CERN scientists made a reference to tunneling. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_tunnelling http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light http://www.aei.mpg.de/~mpoessel/Physik/FTL/tunnelingftl.html My own preliminary Oczam's Razor question about their presentation is how the CERN scientists compensated for the known faster-then-light effect associated with the refractive index (which I also posted about upthread) when light passes through a solid substance. They passed their signal through the Earth's crust, which is composed of many different materials. How did the CERN researchers compensate for the unknown composition of materials? That would be a simple Oczam's Razor explanation for their results. - Clear Skies, Kurt P.S. - For other readers. If I understand this correctly, quantum tunneling means that under Heisenberg uncertainty principle, a small number of particles in any interaction will violate classical rules of mechanics. Thus, light or radiation can be shot at a thick wall and by classical mechanics, all the particles should reflect off the wall. But under the uncertainty principle, a very small number of particles will violate classical mechanics and will pass through the wall. Extending this uncertainty idea by analogy to Einstein's light barrier and the assumption of normal space-time, all particles should not exceed c when transiting a vacum of normal space, but under quantum tunneling, a small number of light particles might violate the natural laws of physics for ordinary space and arrive early. One hypothetical method by which particles would circumvent those natural laws would be to transit another dimension. P.P.S. - Which is an example of cosmology and quantum physics gives me a headache and I try to stick with observation astronomy!

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Observing Plans
by Jay Eads 29 Sep '11

29 Sep '11

Well, I was going to go out to the Pit tonight but instead I have a group of 8 16-18 year olds coming over to the house to view through my dobs tonight with a couple of adults. I'd go tomorrow but I have class til 7:00 so by the time I load and go that won't work. So on Friday, even if there are some clouds (keyword some) I am going to Lakeside that evening. Forecast looks good at this point for Friday. Saturday is iffy. I'm a little frustrated that now that I am feeling relatively and somewhat healthy I can't get the time to go out. I think tonight will be fun. I'm thinking of showing the following items: Dumbbell Nebula Ring Nebula, Alberio Double, Double (I'll see how low my 14 inch can go splitting the double double at home) SN in M101 Lagoon Nebula, Trifed Nebula M22 Glob Swan Nebula M13 Glob M31 and companions (yes, I can pick up a trace of them at home) Double Cluster NGC 457 There are a few more objects I can show like the Little Dumbbell and come OC's. Any other suggestions since I just threw that list together? Jay -- Jay Eads

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Utah-Astronomy Digest, Vol 103, Issue 222
by opstall 29 Sep '11

29 Sep '11

Sorry to have missed the fun on Monday night. Tonight looks second best, so I'll give Lakeside a try. If anyone's out there, I'll see you there. MvO Sent from Garminfone by T-Mobile. utah-astronomy-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: >Send Utah-Astronomy mailing list submissions to > utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > utah-astronomy-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > >You can reach the person managing the list at > utah-astronomy-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Utah-Astronomy digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: If you don't know who this is... (Joe Bauman) > 2. Re: Outstanding observing session last night > (Hutchings, Mat (H USA)) > 3. Re: Outstanding observing session last night (jcarman6(a)q.com) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 09:28:02 -0700 (PDT) >From: Joe Bauman <josephmbauman(a)yahoo.com> >To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] If you don't know who this is... >Message-ID: > <1317227282.96617.YahooMailNeo(a)web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Snooki looks great, but who's that old dude on the left? > > > >________________________________ >From: "erikhansen(a)thebluezone.net" <erikhansen(a)thebluezone.net> >To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 8:41 AM >Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] If you don't know who this is... > >>Doesn't everyone know "Snooky"? He friend the "Situation" makes a hefty >paycheck. > > >I think this will strike a chord with many of the folks here: >> >> http://www.planetary.org/blog/article/00003201 >> >> I'm happy to say I did know the one on the left and have no idea who that >> is on the right. >> >> patrick >> _______________________________________________ >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:27:35 -0400 >From: "Hutchings, Mat (H USA)" <mat.hutchings(a)siemens.com> >To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Outstanding observing session last night >Message-ID: > <F04316395058F74887D96A59052D99E5089FCBD9(a)USMLVV1EXCTV05.ww005.siemens.net> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >jcarman6, sorry I have not met you so I don't know your name. I made a >lot of claims in my post, so I'm not sure exactly which you are >referring to. > >Mat > >-----Original Message----- >From: utah-astronomy-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com >[mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of >jcarman6(a)q.com >Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:49 AM >To: Utah Astronomy >Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Outstanding observing session last night > >Interesting claim there :) Do you have any corroborating witnesses - >ie, two??????? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mat Hutchings (H USA)" <mat.hutchings(a)siemens.com> >To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 4:32:48 PM >Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Outstanding observing session last night > >Joe Bauman and I headed out to Lakeside for an observing session and it >turned out to be one of the best of the year for me. The conditions >were fantastic; no wind, no clouds, very transparent, and good seeing. >I was motivated to "make hay while the sun shines", since conditions >like this have been pretty rare this year it seems. Altogether I hit 60 >objects of which the following were standouts: The Veil, NGC 246 (skull >nebula) ; N. A. and Pelican nebulae; NGC 253, and NGC 1535 (little >Eskimo, and the central star was plainly seen). > >Stephan's quintet and the Fornax galaxy cluster were also looking pretty >good. Although I have seen the Orion nebula looking better through my >scope in the past, it was still filled with detail last night, it was >just not high enough in the sky for the real stunning views. The air >was steady enough to show very crisp images of Jupiter at 375 power. >And Epsilon Lyrae was cleanly split at 104 power (16' dob with and >without an off axis mask with a 6" aperture), but could not get it split >at my next lower power (71). > >Joe got some great images with his setup, and I hope he shares them >soon! > >Again this was a banner night, and it reaffirmed to me that we live in a >great area because within 1.5 hours of where ever you live, you can be >in really good, dark locations. I hope to take advantage of that more, >weather permitting, during the next year. And I hope to see you all out >there at some point or another! > >Keep looking up. > >Mat Hutchings > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >This message and any included attachments are from Siemens Medical Solutions >and are intended only for the addressee(s). >The information contained herein may include trade secrets or privileged or >otherwise confidential information. Unauthorized review, forwarding, printing, >copying, distributing, or using such information is strictly prohibited and may >be unlawful. If you received this message in error, or have reason to believe >you are not authorized to receive it, please promptly delete this message and >notify the sender by e-mail with a copy to Central.SecurityOffice(a)siemens.com > >Thank you > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:10:14 -0400 (EDT) >From: jcarman6(a)q.com >To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Outstanding observing session last night >Message-ID: > <1574898552.674356.1317237014380.JavaMail.root(a)md08.quartz.synacor.com> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > >True, we haven't met, but I thought you were referring to my challenge for dobs to split epsilon lyrae at low magnifications. You made a herculean effort at 104 magnification. I was just hoping for corroboration of the event. I totally believe the rest of your post AND if you didn't catch it in my first reply :) :) :) aka smiley faces. This is all for fun. > >Joan > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mat Hutchings (H USA)" <mat.hutchings(a)siemens.com> >To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:27:35 AM >Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Outstanding observing session last night > >jcarman6, sorry I have not met you so I don't know your name. I made a >lot of claims in my post, so I'm not sure exactly which you are >referring to. > >Mat > >-----Original Message----- >From: utah-astronomy-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com >[mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of >jcarman6(a)q.com >Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:49 AM >To: Utah Astronomy >Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Outstanding observing session last night > >Interesting claim there :) Do you have any corroborating witnesses - >ie, two??????? > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mat Hutchings (H USA)" <mat.hutchings(a)siemens.com> >To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 4:32:48 PM >Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Outstanding observing session last night > >Joe Bauman and I headed out to Lakeside for an observing session and it >turned out to be one of the best of the year for me. The conditions >were fantastic; no wind, no clouds, very transparent, and good seeing. >I was motivated to "make hay while the sun shines", since conditions >like this have been pretty rare this year it seems. Altogether I hit 60 >objects of which the following were standouts: The Veil, NGC 246 (skull >nebula) ; N. A. and Pelican nebulae; NGC 253, and NGC 1535 (little >Eskimo, and the central star was plainly seen). > >Stephan's quintet and the Fornax galaxy cluster were also looking pretty >good. Although I have seen the Orion nebula looking better through my >scope in the past, it was still filled with detail last night, it was >just not high enough in the sky for the real stunning views. The air >was steady enough to show very crisp images of Jupiter at 375 power. >And Epsilon Lyrae was cleanly split at 104 power (16' dob with and >without an off axis mask with a 6" aperture), but could not get it split >at my next lower power (71). > >Joe got some great images with his setup, and I hope he shares them >soon! > >Again this was a banner night, and it reaffirmed to me that we live in a >great area because within 1.5 hours of where ever you live, you can be >in really good, dark locations. I hope to take advantage of that more, >weather permitting, during the next year. And I hope to see you all out >there at some point or another! > >Keep looking up. > >Mat Hutchings > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >This message and any included attachments are from Siemens Medical Solutions >and are intended only for the addressee(s). >The information contained herein may include trade secrets or privileged or >otherwise confidential information. Unauthorized review, forwarding, printing, >copying, distributing, or using such information is strictly prohibited and may >be unlawful. If you received this message in error, or have reason to believe >you are not authorized to receive it, please promptly delete this message and >notify the sender by e-mail with a copy to Central.SecurityOffice(a)siemens.com > >Thank you > >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php > > > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php > >End of Utah-Astronomy Digest, Vol 103, Issue 222 >************************************************

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Giant Sunspots
by D P Pierce 29 Sep '11

29 Sep '11

Just looked at the sun using Baader filter with both unmagnified eye and 8 X21 bincs. Very visible with both. Question? Is it # 14 welders glass thats safe to use? Deloy Pierce

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Giant Sun Spots (and solar scope update)
by Chuck Hards 29 Sep '11

29 Sep '11

On 9/29/11, Chrismo <djchrismo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > As long as I'm up and running by May, it's all good I'm aiming for somewhere between Halloween and Thanksgiving. The good news is that the Surplus Shed order arrived yesterday. I'll be testing optical windows this weekend and finalizing the layout. The star diagonals appear to be of adequate quality for under 50x. You can use them in any other telescope.

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Giant Sun Spots
by Canopus56 29 Sep '11

29 Sep '11

I was also able to see the giant group AR1302 on the Sun through a vision protecting glass ND 5 solar filter but with the naked-eye and no magnification. Pretty impression. I was not able to see the spot group using a cheap of cheap paper ``eclipse glasses.'' See the Spaceweather.com current Ha image to get a feel for how big it is. http://spaceweather.com/ Clear Skies, Kurt

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Giant Sun Spots
by erikhansen＠thebluezone.net 29 Sep '11

29 Sep '11

>Well, they will continue to see spots. In my original reply, I said "filtered of course". I'm getting my > lawyers lined up. > > Seriously. Though this would not qualify for the "Darwin awards", if > someone looks at the sun unfiltered because of sun spots, maybe they > should be nominated. However, if someone (make him male) had his > unfiltered telescope on the sun and the eyepiece is at well, below the > belt level, he could legitimately take himself out of the gene pool. > > A cautious around unfiltered telescopes during the day, Mat > > -----Original Message----- > From: utah-astronomy-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of > Josephine Grahn > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:42 PM > To: utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Giant Sun Spots > > Ya know guys.... I'm pretty sure you are saying "naked eye" and > meaning "non-magnified", but we really should be careful or someone > will, sure as shooting, give it a try. ~shudder~ > Jo > > Quoting "Hutchings, Mat (H USA)" <mat.hutchings(a)siemens.com>: > >> It's just been a long time since I last saw sun spots naked eye. So > it >> was refreshing to see them. >> >> I did check it out with the scope and there is a nice line of spots >> across the face of the sun. The naked eye view is more impressive >> though, I thought. >> >> Mat >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: utah-astronomy-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com >> [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of > Chuck >> Hards >> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:13 PM >> To: Utah Astronomy >> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Giant Sun Spots >> >> While not common, naked-eye spots aren't once-in-a-lifetime events. >> I've seen them on half a dozen occassions over the course of my life. >> I'll definitely check this out when I get home. >> >> Thanks! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ---- >> This message and any included attachments are from Siemens Medical > Solutions >> and are intended only for the addressee(s). >> The information contained herein may include trade secrets or > privileged or >> otherwise confidential information. Unauthorized review, forwarding, >> printing, >> copying, distributing, or using such information is strictly >> prohibited and may >> be unlawful. If you received this message in error, or have reason to > believe >> you are not authorized to receive it, please promptly delete this > message and >> notify the sender by e-mail with a copy to > Central.SecurityOffice(a)siemens.com >> >> Thank you >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This message and any included attachments are from Siemens Medical > Solutions > and are intended only for the addressee(s). > The information contained herein may include trade secrets or privileged > or > otherwise confidential information. Unauthorized review, forwarding, > printing, > copying, distributing, or using such information is strictly prohibited > and may > be unlawful. If you received this message in error, or have reason to > believe > you are not authorized to receive it, please promptly delete this message > and > notify the sender by e-mail with a copy to > Central.SecurityOffice(a)siemens.com > > Thank you > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php >

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