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by Canopus56 15 Jan '11

15 Jan '11

Personal lunar showcase target list In completing updating of my personal observing lists prepared from 2004-2008, I have generated a showcase lunar object list by ascending lunar age. This list is intended to be as a quick reference list at public star parties. The list can be found at: http://fisherka.csolutionshosting.net/astronote/plan/MoonPlan/pdf/LunarShow… http://fisherka.csolutionshosting.net/astronote/plan/MoonPlan/html/LunarSho… This list is the union of the following target lists: Lunar 100 in Wood. C.A. 2006. The Lunar 100 List. (Web article) Sky & Telescope. http://skyandtelescope.com/ Rukl50 in Rukl, A. 2004 (2ed). Atlas of the Moon. Sky Publishing. AstroLeague2006a: Astronomy League. 2006. Lunar Club Observing List. http://www.astroleague.org/al/obsclubs/lunar/lunar2.html NextStar50Club. 2005. NextStar Club Lunar 50 List. (Web document) http://www.nexstarsite.com/nexstar50club.htm Observatorio ARVAL - Binocular targets Moonmpa http://www.oarval.org/MoonMapen.htm An online down-and-dirty estimate of the longitude of the terminator can be found using Burnett's javascript lunar ephemeris at url: http://www.lunar-occultations.com/rlo/ephemeris.htm Clear Skies - Kurt

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Mining kepler data
by Jerry Foote 15 Jan '11

15 Jan '11

If you want to search for exoplanets, eclipsing binaries or variable stars, the Kepler data is available at: http://www.martin-nicholson.info/kepler/kepler.htm This site is maintained by Martin Nicholson of the UK. Jerry Foote ScopeCraft, Inc. 4175 E. Red Cliffs Dr. Kanab, UT 84741 435-899-1255 jfoote(a)scopecraft.com

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Expanding Earth
by Stephen Peterson 14 Jan '11

14 Jan '11

Forget the plate tectonics thing. One of the best books I have found RE cosmology is (somewhat dated but still relevant) "A Short History of the Universe" by Joseph Silk, Scientific American Library, 1994. It is proposed (and apparently observed) that the universe is expanding everywhere (i.e. between galaxies) but not locally (i.e. Earth or solar system). I do not understand the supposed non-linearity of the observed expansion. Is it that the scale is so different that local expansion is so small in comparison that it can be neglected. Can anyone clarify? Steve

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Expanding Earth
by stormcrow60＠xmission.com 14 Jan '11

14 Jan '11

But I did answer your question Robert. I said that the Earth may be affected by cosmic forces. I do not deny that. How and to what extent, is not clear. While the empty space that makes up the universe expands faster than the speed of light, obviously, the Earth is not expanding at such a rate, and this guys theories do not account logically for plate tectonics. Frankly is it plain hogwash. You didn't answer my question. -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of stormcrow60(a)xmission.com Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:51 PM To: utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Expanding Earth Really Robert? While I may agree there might be a cosmic force that affects the Earth, ie, dark matter, dark energy or what not... the premise of this guys website is to contradict earth plate tectonics and to claim the Earth's surface as we see it today is caused by the expansion of the Earth. If one can believe in todays theories of the expansion of the universe... (let's see the raising of hands folks)... that you use to make your case, then why can't we believe in the theories of geology that prevail today, without introducing some hackneyed theory? I would think most scientists agree with the theory of plate tectonics evem more so than those that agree with the current cosmic expansion theories of the universe. In fact... we see the evidence of plate tctonics all around us. Just look up at the Wasatch Mountains. Anyway... just my two cents worth. Jon

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Spiffy Moon phase calendar app for iCal and Calendar
by Patrick Wiggins 14 Jan '11

14 Jan '11

I just came across a free Mac app that automatically installs the phases of the Moon on iCal and Calendar. Moon Phase Calendar 1.0 http://moon-phase-calendar.en.softonic.com/mac Installs easily but it does add four "in between" phases in addition to the usual First, Full, Third and New. Happily the extras were easily removed after initial installation (I emailed the author suggesting he include an option in a future release that would allow the user to select which phases are installed). patrick

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Utah-Astronomy Digest, Vol 95, Issue 23
by BAXTER J DAVID Owner 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

How about the constant entry of meteorite matter over eons of time. > From: utah-astronomy-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Utah-Astronomy Digest, Vol 95, Issue 23 > To: utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:21:05 -0700 > > Send Utah-Astronomy mailing list submissions to > utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > utah-astronomy-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > utah-astronomy-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Utah-Astronomy digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Expanding Earth (stormcrow60(a)xmission.com) > 2. Re: Expanding Earth (Kim Hyatt) > 3. Re: Expanding Earth (David Rankin) > 4. Re: Transit of Venus (Patrick Wiggins) > 5. Re: Expanding Earth? (Mark Shelton) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:45:25 -0700 > From: stormcrow60(a)xmission.com > To: utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Expanding Earth > Message-ID: <20110113164525.5mk9ycbce8so4www(a)webmail.xmission.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; > format="flowed" > > Yes... subduction... which is conveniently never mentioned, is the > reason why the Earth is not, nor ever has "expanded". If it was > expanding, where is the material for the expansion coming from? Talk > about a fantasy. It's pure pseudo science garbage. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:00:29 -0700 > From: "Kim Hyatt" <kimharch(a)cut.net> > To: "'Utah Astronomy'" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Expanding Earth > Message-ID: <E1PdY1x-0000nd-B1(a)mx03.mta.xmission.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > The real question is, how can we prevent these people from reproducing? > > Kim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: utah-astronomy-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of > stormcrow60(a)xmission.com > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:45 PM > To: utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Expanding Earth > > Yes... subduction... which is conveniently never mentioned, is the > reason why the Earth is not, nor ever has "expanded". If it was > expanding, where is the material for the expansion coming from? Talk > about a fantasy. It's pure pseudo science garbage. > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php > Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3376 - Release Date: 01/12/11 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:02:17 -0700 > From: David Rankin <David(a)rankinstudio.com> > To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Expanding Earth > Message-ID: <4D2FA099.3040902(a)rankinstudio.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > lol > > On 1/13/11 6:00 PM, Kim Hyatt wrote: > > The real question is, how can we prevent these people from reproducing? > > > > Kim > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: utah-astronomy-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com > > [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of > > stormcrow60(a)xmission.com > > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 4:45 PM > > To: utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Expanding Earth > > > > Yes... subduction... which is conveniently never mentioned, is the > > reason why the Earth is not, nor ever has "expanded". If it was > > expanding, where is the material for the expansion coming from? Talk > > about a fantasy. It's pure pseudo science garbage. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php > > Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com > > > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3376 - Release Date: 01/12/11 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php > > Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:21:04 -0700 > From: Patrick Wiggins <paw(a)wirelessbeehive.com> > To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Transit of Venus > Message-ID: <412F97E0-2CD3-4E69-ACC7-157A5E67948B(a)wirelessbeehive.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > On 13 Jan 2011, at 07:08, Chuck Hards wrote: > > > It looks like the sun will be darn low nearing the end of the event, > > for us here in northern Utah. Anybody have plans to travel westward a > > bit for this? > > For me it's a question of "Is it worth the effort?". > > Even from SLC we'll see 1st and 2nd contacts when the Sun's over half way up the sky. We'll even see minimum separation though only 15? above the horizon. > > Going to the west coast will put the Sun a bit higher in the sky but there's no place in the continental US where 3rd or 4th contacts will be seen. > > One could travel to BC or Alaska where the entire event will be above the horizon but chances of clouds are 50% higher than here in Utah. > > Hawaii is another possibility with all of the event being visible from there (though egress is very low in the sky). Plus the chance of clouds is a few percent less than here. > > Were it happening in cold weather months I just might consider Hawaii but going there in June does not appeal to me. > > And, besides, is it worth all of the cost and hassle of going a great distance just to see Venus travel a little further across Sol's disk? To me it's not. > > Weather permitting I'll almost certainly go to SPOC and use the refractor and DayStar filter. Even from there the Sun will still be at least a few degrees above the local horizon at minimum separation. > > Plus right as the Sun is setting Saturn will be about 1/3 of the way up the eastern sky making it a good target to close the day's festivities on. > > All-in-all, 2012 is shaping up to be a pretty big deal. Annular eclipse in May, transit of Venus in June and the End of the World (part 2) star party in December. > > patrick > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:20:34 -0800 (PST) > From: Mark Shelton <woodturninginc(a)yahoo.com> > To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Expanding Earth? > Message-ID: <288826.85547.qm(a)web59411.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Thank you all for the comments. When my friend told me about this I was > skeptical. It just did not make sense to me. > > I watched the video's in the link I sent and it was entertaining. Just did not > make a lot of sense. > > What is sad is I think my friend really believes this and he is no dummy. > > Mark > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: David Rankin <David(a)rankinstudio.com> > To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Thu, January 13, 2011 4:43:33 PM > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Expanding Earth? > > I'm doing my minor in Geology. > > I share your sentiments Dave. > > David > > On 1/13/2011 4:20 PM, Dave Gary wrote: > > Another case of intellectual ?delirium tremens?. Where do these people come > >from? They have way too much time on their hands if they?re coming up with this > >phantasmagoric blather. They need to get a job. > > > > By the way, how did those marine fossil assemblages come to be at the top of > >the Himalayas if plates never crash into one another? I guess those mollusks > >just felt frisky one day and climbed to 29,000 feet. Under this guy?s theory how > >did the Himalayas arise? I suppose ?they were inordinately high to begin with? > >would be his reply. Remember, he said plates never run into each other, they > >only ?grow? apart. > > > > Chuck replied he did not see the word subduction in the little bit that he > >read. Had he listened to ?Press Clip #0? he would have found out why. The guy > >completely discounts subduction from the rip. If you discount subduction, then > >Wegener?s theory wouldn?t make a lot of sense. I had to temper my intellectual > >pursuit at this point. I was beginning to wretch. > > > > Oh, sorry. I got a little carried away. What?s my comment: It?s nonsense. > > > > Dave > > On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Mark Shelton wrote: > > > > > >> > >> Hi, All > >> > >> I was talking to a fellow astronomer the other evening and he told me to go to > >>a > >> web site and check out expanding earth, mars etc. theory. > >> > >> Here is the link: > >> > >> http://www.nealadams.com/nmu.html > >> > >> This is kind of an interesting Idea. > >> > >> Any comments > >> > >> Mark Shelton > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list > >> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >> Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php > >> Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php > > Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php > Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php > > End of Utah-Astronomy Digest, Vol 95, Issue 23 > **********************************************

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Expanding Earth
by stormcrow60＠xmission.com 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

Yes... subduction... which is conveniently never mentioned, is the reason why the Earth is not, nor ever has "expanded". If it was expanding, where is the material for the expansion coming from? Talk about a fantasy. It's pure pseudo science garbage.

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Video: The Frontier Is Everywhere
by Patrick Wiggins 13 Jan '11

13 Jan '11

Apologies to those who receive News as I'll be including this in tomorrow's edition. But I like this enough that I thought I'd share it here too since there are a few people on this list that do not receive News. http://www.planetary.org/blog/article/00002876/ patrick

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So Long, Solar System
by Joe Bauman 12 Jan '11

12 Jan '11

Voyager 1 has reached a region where the solar wind is no longer flowing outward, nearly to interstellar space. If anyone would care to read and comment on my blog I'd be grateful: http://www.deseretnews.com/blog/47/10011134/Nightly-news-astronomy-Onward-t… Thanks, Joe

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another binary date
by Kim Hyatt 11 Jan '11

11 Jan '11

Just missed another binary time: 11:11, 1.11.11. Kim

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