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Re: [Utah-astronomy] A Question on JaFu 2 in NGC 6441
by Joe Bauman 03 Jul '09

03 Jul '09

Oh yes, I even wrote a blog about it. Here 'tis: http://www.deseretnews.com/blogs/monthly/1,5553,10000034,00.html?bD=2009061… Best wishes, Joe --- On Fri, 7/3/09, Rodger C. Fry <rcfry(a)comcast.net> wrote: From: Rodger C. Fry <rcfry(a)comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] A Question on JaFu 2 in NGC 6441 To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 8:33 PM Joe, I know that M-22 is one of your favorites as well as mine but I haven't noticed the planetary nebula in it. Have you observed this? Rodger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Bauman" <josephmbauman(a)yahoo.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] A Question on JaFu 2 in NGC 6441 Jay and Rodger, Did you try the one in M22? -- Best wishes, Joe --- On Fri, 7/3/09, Rodger C. Fry <rcfry(a)comcast.net> wrote: From: Rodger C. Fry <rcfry(a)comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] A Question on JaFu 2 in NGC 6441 To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 8:00 PM Jay, I have never looked at this through the Grim but I am up to the challenge. We will have to see what it looks like in the next month or so. Rodger Fry ----- Original Message ----- From: "JayLEads" <jayleads(a)gmail.com> To: "Utah-Astronomy" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 9:29 AM Subject: [Utah-astronomy] A Question on JaFu 2 in NGC 6441 > I was doing some research on NGC 6441, a rather unique globular cluster that doesn't really fit either Oosterhoff classification (see http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/1538-3881/122/5/2600 and pick the PDF or HTML to read the article) and knowing that a planetary sits in the center of the globular, I did some research into it (loving planetary nebulas). > > What I found interests me, a lot. I know that even with the 14 inch truss dob I own I have no chance for viewing JaFu2. I am just wondering if the Grim out at SPOC could or has captured this object or someone else here has using a large aperture scope? I have seen NGC 6441 but my fear on the planetary is that it sits too low on the southern horizon to capture even with a large scope (looking through all the atmosphere and junk), though the first week of August or last week of July could be worth a shot. > > Here's an interesting site on it http://www.blackskies.org/ JaFu_challenge.htm where they label it and JaFu1 as possibly the "ultimate" planetary challenges; not sure about that and would love to hear others opinions on that. > > Anyway, thanks for putting up with my interests and in replying. > > Jay > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php > Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com > _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] A Question on JaFu 2 in NGC 6441
by Joe Bauman 03 Jul '09

03 Jul '09

Jay and Rodger, Did you try the one in M22? -- Best wishes, Joe --- On Fri, 7/3/09, Rodger C. Fry <rcfry(a)comcast.net> wrote: From: Rodger C. Fry <rcfry(a)comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] A Question on JaFu 2 in NGC 6441 To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 8:00 PM Jay, I have never looked at this through the Grim but I am up to the challenge. We will have to see what it looks like in the next month or so. Rodger Fry ----- Original Message ----- From: "JayLEads" <jayleads(a)gmail.com> To: "Utah-Astronomy" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 9:29 AM Subject: [Utah-astronomy] A Question on JaFu 2 in NGC 6441 > I was doing some research on NGC 6441, a rather unique globular cluster that doesn't really fit either Oosterhoff classification (see http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/1538-3881/122/5/2600 and pick the PDF or HTML to read the article) and knowing that a planetary sits in the center of the globular, I did some research into it (loving planetary nebulas). > > What I found interests me, a lot. I know that even with the 14 inch truss dob I own I have no chance for viewing JaFu2. I am just wondering if the Grim out at SPOC could or has captured this object or someone else here has using a large aperture scope? I have seen NGC 6441 but my fear on the planetary is that it sits too low on the southern horizon to capture even with a large scope (looking through all the atmosphere and junk), though the first week of August or last week of July could be worth a shot. > > Here's an interesting site on it http://www.blackskies.org/ JaFu_challenge.htm where they label it and JaFu1 as possibly the "ultimate" planetary challenges; not sure about that and would love to hear others opinions on that. > > Anyway, thanks for putting up with my interests and in replying. > > Jay > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php > Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com > _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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A Question on JaFu 2 in NGC 6441
by JayLEads 03 Jul '09

03 Jul '09

I was doing some research on NGC 6441, a rather unique globular cluster that doesn't really fit either Oosterhoff classification (see http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/1538-3881/122/5/2600 and pick the PDF or HTML to read the article) and knowing that a planetary sits in the center of the globular, I did some research into it (loving planetary nebulas). What I found interests me, a lot. I know that even with the 14 inch truss dob I own I have no chance for viewing JaFu2. I am just wondering if the Grim out at SPOC could or has captured this object or someone else here has using a large aperture scope? I have seen NGC 6441 but my fear on the planetary is that it sits too low on the southern horizon to capture even with a large scope (looking through all the atmosphere and junk), though the first week of August or last week of July could be worth a shot. Here's an interesting site on it http://www.blackskies.org/ JaFu_challenge.htm where they label it and JaFu1 as possibly the "ultimate" planetary challenges; not sure about that and would love to hear others opinions on that. Anyway, thanks for putting up with my interests and in replying. Jay

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] A Question on JaFu 2 in NGC 6441
by daniel turner 03 Jul '09

03 Jul '09

Jay: ngc6441 is on my list of globulars but as I recall it required sitting in the dirt to get down to declination -37 with a 17.5" dob. This Glob is never more that 13 degrees off the deck and that gives an airmass of 4.5. That's 4.5 times the atmosphere as looking straight up at the zenith. I suspect the Grim telescope would loose much of it's aperture to the back wall of the observatory. I found the abstract article interesting. RR lyrae stars have been photographed winking on and off in m5 by amateurs though. http://observers.org/tac.mailing.list/2009/Jun/0120.html DT --- On Fri, 7/3/09, JayLEads <jayleads(a)gmail.com> wrote: > research into it (loving planetary nebulas). > > What I found interests me, a lot. I know that even with the > 14 inch truss dob I own I have no chance for viewing > JaFu2. I am just wondering if the Grim out at SPOC > could or has captured this object or someone else here has > using a large aperture scope? I have seen NGC 6441 but my > fear on the planetary is that it sits too low on the > southern horizon to capture even with a large scope (looking > through all the atmosphere and junk), though the first week > of August or last week of July could be worth a shot. > > Jay > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php > Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com >

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Dark Skies
by Joe Bauman 03 Jul '09

03 Jul '09

Cache Valley Stargazers has a nice ring. If I started a new club (of course I wouldn't, with SLAS doing such a magnificent job), I'd call it the Salt Lake Stargeezers! -- Joe --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Dale Hooper <Dale.Hooper(a)sdl.usu.edu> wrote: From: Dale Hooper <Dale.Hooper(a)sdl.usu.edu> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Dark Skies To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 3:09 PM As an FYI, Dr. Shane Larson from USU has started a new astronomy club in Cache Valley called Cache Valley Stargazers. So far there have been a couple meetings and a couple star parties with attendance averaging about forty. The next meeting is a week from tomorrow and the speaker, Jim Davis, will be speaking about, "The Celestial Clockwork: Motions in the Sky". Here is the URL for the club website: http://www.cachestargazers.org/ Clear skies, Dale. -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Wiggins Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 2:31 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Dark Skies On 29 Jun 2009, at 11:13, erikhansen(a)TheBlueZone.net wrote: > As I recall, Cedar City has an amateur group but I don't no if St > George > does. There are a couple of small clubs in St. George: http://users.wirelessbeehive.com/%7Epaw/UTAHCLUBS.HTML Cheers, patrick _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Video shorts for a rainy night
by JayLEads 03 Jul '09

03 Jul '09

Kurt, Thanks for sharing these. They were entertaining. The one on the moon reminded me of my first astronomy book I had as a kid with the same space station and ships in it. I can't remember its name but I still remember the pictures. They were/are interesting.

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Salt Lake Gastronomical Society - HeavenlyMeal -
by Joe Bauman 03 Jul '09

03 Jul '09

No, No, I'm unqualified to be chairman. When I was a working journalist (instead of a retired blogger), I organized our group lunches. My title then was "2nd subassistant cruise director Bau." So you can call me that if you'd like. Thanks, jb --- On Sat, 5/30/09, erikhansen(a)TheBlueZone.net <erikhansen(a)TheBlueZone.net> wrote: From: erikhansen(a)TheBlueZone.net <erikhansen(a)TheBlueZone.net> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Salt Lake Gastronomical Society - HeavenlyMeal - To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Date: Saturday, May 30, 2009, 9:43 AM >I think I will pass on Jeanies Smoke Shop and a cigar, if Dan joins us, but count me in for lunch. Erik I'll find out before the day arrives, Joe. > > Confirmed so-far: > > Chuck > Erik (non-liver menu selection) > Joe > Rich > Robert (non-liver menu selection) > > Daniel, you didn't say for sure if you'd be there. We'd love to have you > join us! > > Anyone bringing a guest? > > Maybe Patrick can mention this in "News"? "Liver and Onions committee to > meet before July18 star party" or something like that. We can vote on the > committee chair at the luncheon. I nominate Joe Bauman for the position > of > Chairman. > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php > Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com > _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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Dark Skies
by Stephen Peterson 02 Jul '09

02 Jul '09

Just returned from taking possession of our new house about 5 miles S of Hurricane (don't Taser me) Utah. Got up at midnight with the moon just setting and lighting the Hurricane Cliffs. I swear the Milky Way was so bright it might have been casting a shadow! So many stars that I was confused (more than normal) as to what constellations I was looking at! WOW, right decision to move there. As we get settled in, a future invite to SLAS members to visit and set up for observation and photography. So far, no rattlesnakes or scorpions in the back yard. Steve

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Dark Skies
by Joe Bauman 02 Jul '09

02 Jul '09

Right on! --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Rodger C. Fry <rcfry(a)comcast.net> wrote: From: Rodger C. Fry <rcfry(a)comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Dark Skies To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 7:46 PM Joe, You and I could be grandfathered in as charter members. Rodger Fry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Bauman" <josephmbauman(a)yahoo.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Dark Skies Cache Valley Stargazers has a nice ring. If I started a new club (of course I wouldn't, with SLAS doing such a magnificent job), I'd call it the Salt Lake Stargeezers! -- Joe --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Dale Hooper <Dale.Hooper(a)sdl.usu.edu> wrote: From: Dale Hooper <Dale.Hooper(a)sdl.usu.edu> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Dark Skies To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 3:09 PM As an FYI, Dr. Shane Larson from USU has started a new astronomy club in Cache Valley called Cache Valley Stargazers. So far there have been a couple meetings and a couple star parties with attendance averaging about forty. The next meeting is a week from tomorrow and the speaker, Jim Davis, will be speaking about, "The Celestial Clockwork: Motions in the Sky". Here is the URL for the club website: http://www.cachestargazers.org/ Clear skies, Dale. -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Wiggins Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 2:31 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Dark Skies On 29 Jun 2009, at 11:13, erikhansen(a)TheBlueZone.net wrote: > As I recall, Cedar City has an amateur group but I don't no if St > George > does. There are a couple of small clubs in St. George: http://users.wirelessbeehive.com/%7Epaw/UTAHCLUBS.HTML Cheers, patrick _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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Video shorts for a rainy night
by Canopus56 02 Jul '09

02 Jul '09

Since it is a rainy night - here's some blast-from-the-past video from 1957 archived for high-speed internet viewing on YouTube: Episode 6 from Disney's 1957 "Man and the Moon" - What in 1957 Uncle Walt thought Apollo 8 would look like - including the hidden Soviet Moon base on the farside! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRDIf_3DqtI Episode 4 of Disney's 1957 "Mars from Earth" - The popular conception of what live on Mars might turn out to be - from a 1957 viewpoint. Includes historical footage back from when Lowell Observatory in Flagstaff was still used for planetary research and an interview with Lowell Obs director E.C. Slipher. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RChnjIKWges&feature=related Episode 6 of Disney's 1957 "Mars from Earth" - Werner Von Braun's dream of an armada of 6 nuclear powered spaceships that use gasified cesium as propellant. Man, would I _not_ want to be riding in the last ship of that floatilla breathing the radioactive exhaust of the leading 5 ships! Note the spherically shaped Phobos and Demos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRCQ2Cu3bSE Compare the Mars landing shown in Episode 6 with the air-bag balls used from the rovers in 2004. Clear Skies - Kurt

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