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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Utah-Astronomy Digest, Vol 69, Issue 20
by Robert Taylor 15 Nov '08

15 Nov '08

Who knows, maybe future rovers will have something exactly like that. Many of the new high end digital cameras have a dust removal system built into them that literally vibrates the dust off. It seems to work fairly well. Why not on a rover? NASA, are you listening? Robert Taylor ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:47:47 -0700 From: "Darin Christensen" <darinc(a)comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Controllers Cheer as Data Arrive from NASA'sSpirit Rover To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <748055477BD6430C961CDCA62C5C1967@darinpc> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I wondered if the atmosphere was thick enough to use a small wind powered generator to augment solar power, and if a blower/fan could have been added to clean off the solar panels......

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Controllers Cheer as Data Arrive from NASA's Spirit Rover
by Patrick Wiggins 14 Nov '08

14 Nov '08

Controllers Cheer as Data Arrive from NASA's Spirit Rover http://marsrovers.nasa.gov/newsroom/pressreleases/20081113a.html The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated -M. Twain

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Pulled from the discard pile...
by Richard Tenney 14 Nov '08

14 Nov '08

I found this post from another list member had been rejected by the list filter. Let's see if it works for me... ============================= Hi all, I offer this article about general science funding only for thought not discussion. If you are considering participating in a clinical trial I urge you read it. http://discovermagazine.com/2007/oct/sciences-worst-enemy-private-funding

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Bush Administration
by zaurak＠digis.net 14 Nov '08

14 Nov '08

The few, the proud....... the Bush supporters (24% approval). By the way unemployment is skyrocketing and Reagan and Bush grew government greatly, along with the deficit. Who was in charge during 9-11, can it really be claimed Bush protected our country. Thank You to all veterans, I hope your service was a pleasure. --- diveboss(a)xmission.com wrote: From: diveboss(a)xmission.com To: utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Bush Administration Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:16:37 -0700 Yeah, the money could have been returned to those who actually made it. Just a thought. FWIW, the government has my permission to use the money they take from me to kill bad guys. The more the better. If science can come up with better, more efficient ways to do it, then I support it. Gary, the bigger government becomes, the more the left want. They don't mind funding all these social programs as long as they don't have to pay for it. They cry about jobs going overseas. It costs less to produce goods overseas. If government, and I really mean those on the left, would keep their hands out of the pockets of those who actually provide jobs, perhaps the jobs would stay. More jobs generate more tax payers, which equals more wealth for the left to take and spread around. Quoting Tyler Allred <tylerallred(a)earthlink.net>: > Gary Vardon said: > <<Another point is that the government could fund space exploration much > more extensively if welfare were not so costly. > In other words so much is spent on transfer payments that the government > does not have much money to fund space research.>> > > What about the "Ten Thousand Million" dollars (that's $10,000,000,000 or ten > billion dollars) per month spent in Iraq? Perhaps that money could have > been used better... maybe? Its just a thought. :) > > Tyler > _____________________________________________ > -----Original Message----- > From: utah-astronomy-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Gary > Vardon > Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:04 AM > To: Utah Astronomy > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Bush Administration > > The free enterprise system provides the technology that NASA uses for space > exploration. > > Another point is that the government could fund space exploration much more > extensively if welfare were not so costly. > In other words so much is spent on transfer payments that the government > does not have much money to fund space research. > > Sincerely, > Gary Vardon > > > -----Original Message----- > From: diveboss(a)xmission.com > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 11:50 PM > To: utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Bush Administration > > Is that you Rocky? ;) > > You need to brush up on your history just a little bit. Particularly > that part that defines the role of government. I don't remember NASA, > NOAA or the EPA being things the federal government was to be > responsible for. I don't believe rebuilding low lying coastal cities > that were damaged by hurricanes as a role of the federal government. > The role of the government is to defend and protect it's citizens from > harm. The role of the government is to stay out of the way of it's > citizens as they freely persue their own forms of happiness, provided > it does not violate the rights of others to do the same. All the other > crap you mentioned is simply the talking points of the far left. IF > all George Bush did in his 8 years was to keep this country and it's > people safe, then he did exactly what the framers had intended. And in > less than 15 minutes, you can thank a veteran for giving you the right > to say what you want. And I will thank them for giving me the right to > respond. > > Happy Veterans day to the rest of you who served! > > > > Quoting stormcrow60(a)xmission.com: > >> Without the "government" you would not have NASA. Without the >> "government" you would not have NOAA. Without the "government", you >> would not have the EPA or any other federal entity that worked fairly >> efficiently and prudently before the Bush administation hired their >> "anti-science" hacks to head said government entities. The plan of the >> Bush administration all along was to gut these federal entities to >> show the American people how ineffectual the federal government is. >> Look at FEMA and Hurricane Katrina for a perfect example of this type >> of right wing ideology. The worn out right wing argument of telling >> the "government to get out of the way" is not only wrong, but foolish. >> Another perfect example is the almost $1,000,000,000,000.000 of U.S. >> tax payers money that has been transferred from public hands into >> private hands. Now the same greedy, right wing, venture capitalists >> who have run our economy into the ground based upon their diatribe of >> deregulating the markets, and telling the "government to get out of >> the way" are now running to the seek the shelter of that same >> "government" to bail them out of the economic mess they have created. >> Its funny, that right wingers called Obama a socialist when he >> introduced his tax plan. But those same right wing ideologues did not >> complain when they went "hat in hand" to beg for a government bail >> out. This is occuring again and again. Look at GM and Chrysler and >> Ford. These companies are just a small example of the massive bailout >> hoax that is being perpetrated upon the American people. The free >> enterprsiers are a joke. They want to live their ideology so bad, yet >> they will unabashedly make like the corporate welfare queens they >> truly are and run to the federal government for help. Socialists >> indeed! True free enterprise is dead and has been dead for decades. >> And as far as the planetary probes that another person had mentioned, >> these probes would not have been funded if left to the vestiges of the >> Bush administration. Thanks for your time. >> >> Jon > > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com > Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com > Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com > Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com > _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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Photo ID help
by Jerry Foote 13 Nov '08

13 Nov '08

Patrick, In the Bald Mountain image #3 is Bonnie McCombs. Jerry Foote ScopeCraft, Inc. 4175 E. Red Cliffs Dr. Kanab, UT 84741 435-899-1255 jfoote(a)scopecraft.com

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Help ID old timers
by zaurak＠digis.net 13 Nov '08

13 Nov '08

Am I alone, or does the picture of Erik Edmunds bring back fond memories? Becky and Erik gave me my first sono tube. Erik --- steve.nielsen(a)comcast.net wrote: From: steve.nielsen(a)comcast.net To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com>, utah astronomy listserve utah astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Cc: Patrick Wiggins <paw(a)wirelessbeehive.com> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Help ID old timers Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 05:41:24 +0000 Patrick, I am disappointed that you are kneeling right next to a beautiful blonde (No. 19) and you do not recall who she is. Steve -------------- Original message -------------- From: Patrick Wiggins <paw(a)wirelessbeehive.com> > As part of the SLAS history project we are trying to ID several > SLASers in a couple of old photos Bruce Grim found in his files. > > I have posted temporary annotated versions at: > > http://users.wirelessbeehive.com/~paw/temp/baldmtnid.jpg > We can't ID #s 1, 3, 4, 12, 13, 14, 19 & 21 > > http://users.wirelessbeehive.com/~paw/temp/spocid.jpg > We can't ID #s 2, 6, 12 & 13 > > Any help appreciated, > > patrick > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com > Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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Introduction and advice on a new scope
by Dan Hanks 13 Nov '08

13 Nov '08

Hi folks, By way of introduction, I just joined the list. I've been a subscriber before but life just got too busy and I had to drop off for a while. Life has calmed down somewhat, so I'm back. I've been into astronomy for as long as I can remember, probably started with backyard sleepouts in my hometown of Parowan, UT, and looking up at the stars on warm summer nights. Though I've enjoyed astronomy for many years, I've never had a real good-quality scope. I currently have a lower-quality Bushnell 4" reflector with an EQ mount, and am looking to upgrade to a much better instrument. I imagine some better eyepieces might make a world of difference. Altogether, though, my current scope provides more headaches than celestial enjoyment, so I'm looking to move to something of better quality, easier to use, and more likely to get me out more often. I have my eye on the Skyquest XT12, but that would probably stretch our budget a bit. As an intermediate step I've considered going with the XT8, as a smaller investment to see if I'll actually get out and use the thing. If that turned out ok, I could probably graduate to the XT12 (or perhaps the XX12 if prices came down on that after some time). Any recommendations? Thanks, Dan -- Kiva.org - Loans That Change Lives

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myastrostuff.com
by Gary Vardon 13 Nov '08

13 Nov '08

Google myastrostuff.com and see CCD images, old cosmic therories and orbits. The numerical intergration of orbits shows really sophisticated graphics. Sincerely, Gary Vardon -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Foote Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:55 AM To: utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Photo ID help Patrick, In the Bald Mountain image #3 is Bonnie McCombs. Jerry Foote ScopeCraft, Inc. 4175 E. Red Cliffs Dr. Kanab, UT 84741 435-899-1255 jfoote(a)scopecraft.com _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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Possible newly discovered Bubble Nebulae in Cyg
by Canopus56 13 Nov '08

13 Nov '08

Imaging challenge object for next year? Today's 11/13/2008 APOD showing the planetary nebulae http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html Is not a visual object. Requires multiple 20 min exposures with narrowband filters to resolve Position JA201522.16+380241.9 12.9 x 12.9 arc-minutes Images http://www.lostvalleyobservatory.com/review.nebula1/ Near the Crescent Neb, NGC 6888 at FK5 201207+3821.3 - Kurt

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Help ID old timers
by Robert Taylor 13 Nov '08

13 Nov '08

I really love the hair dos and clothes. May the 70's rest in peace. Great pictures. Did we really dress like that? Robert Taylor ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:23:58 -0800 From: <zaurak(a)digis.net> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Help ID old timers To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <20081113092357.937FC585(a)resin09.mta.everyone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Am I alone, or does the picture of Erik Edmunds bring back fond memories? Becky and Erik gave me my first sono tube. Erik --- steve.nielsen(a)comcast.net wrote: From: steve.nielsen(a)comcast.net To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com>, utah astronomy listserve utah astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Cc: Patrick Wiggins <paw(a)wirelessbeehive.com> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Help ID old timers Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 05:41:24 +0000 Patrick, I am disappointed that you are kneeling right next to a beautiful blonde (No. 19) and you do not recall who she is. Steve

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