October 2008 - Utah-Astronomy - mailman.xmission.com

Re: [Utah-astronomy] India to the moon
by zaurak＠digis.net 22 Oct '08

22 Oct '08

They will move the call centers to the moon. Or... perhaps you will need to wait until their space craft is overhead in orbit. Or...you could switch to Mac and avoid it all together. --- diveboss(a)xmission.com wrote: From: diveboss(a)xmission.com To: Utah-Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: [Utah-astronomy] India to the moon Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:47:44 -0600 My question is, with everyone's attention on their space program will Hewlett-Packards support staff still be available for questions? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,442821,00.html _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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India to the moon
by diveboss＠xmission.com 21 Oct '08

21 Oct '08

My question is, with everyone's attention on their space program will Hewlett-Packards support staff still be available for questions? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,442821,00.html

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Advice on Telrad Placement
by Gary Vardon 20 Oct '08

20 Oct '08

That is ok for others. I reserve the right to insult, and demean as I see fit. Sincerely, Gary Vardon -----Original Message----- From: Bob Moore Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 2:18 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Advice on Telrad Placement I for one think that postings on this website should refrain from making personal attacks on people or their postings as this is suppose to be a place to advance science and exchange astronomical information and findings I hope we can all keep that in mind when we post comments in the future Bob Moore Bob Moore Commerce CRG - Salt Lake City office 175 East 400 South, Suite 700 Salt Lake City, Utah 84111 Direct: 801-303-5418 Main: 801-322-2000 Fax: 801-322-2040 BMoore(a)commercecrg.com www.commercecrg.com * * * * * * * * * * * NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachment contain confidential information that may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, print, copy, use or disseminate it. Please immediately notify me by return e-mail and delete it. If this e-mail contains a forwarded e-mail or is a reply to a prior e-mail, the contents may not have been produced by the sender and therefore we are not responsible for its contents. It is the recipient's responsibility to take measures to ensure that this e-mail is virus free, and no responsibility is accepted by the author or Commerce CRG for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use. -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of daniel turner Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 12:36 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Advice on Telrad Placement Ann: This is a hobby. It's supposed to be fun. Find your own happiness and let others find their's if they can. How a telescope looks has nothing to do with what you can see in the eyepiece. We come together to share our views of the sky, not to make a fashion statment. DT --- On Sun, 10/19/08, zaurak(a)digis.net <zaurak(a)digis.net> wrote: > From: zaurak(a)digis.net <zaurak(a)digis.net> > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Advice on Telrad Placement > To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 10:19 AM > Yes Ann, A bungee cord looks cheap and tacky, you can stop > wondering. :) > > --- ann(a)annhouse.org wrote: > > From: "Ann House" <ann(a)annhouse.org> > To: "Utah Astronomy" > <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Advice on Telrad Placement > Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:02:33 -0600 > > I highly recommend the bungee cord. The only downside is > that I have had a > few people at star parties ask about the cost of my > telescope. It got me to > wondering if the bungee cord looks cheap or tacky... But it > works > beautifully. > > -A > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com > Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com > Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Advice on Telrad Placement
by zaurak＠digis.net 20 Oct '08

20 Oct '08

I sure hope Ann took my comment as humor, that was the intent. The Telrad bracket works pretty good, but is probably more for dobsons. I liked being able to have all the adjustability the mounting bracket offered. There are many reticle finders available that are nicely machined and not much more money, those are more easily mounted on commercial telescopes . I use the Burgess Reticle finder on my refractor. The telrad's brightness is more adjustable than the burgess though. I have a Televue Star Beam I would sell cheap if anyone is interested. Erik --- BMoore(a)commercecrg.com wrote: From: "Bob Moore" <BMoore(a)commercecrg.com> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Advice on Telrad Placement Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:18:40 -0600 I for one think that postings on this website should refrain from making personal attacks on people or their postings as this is suppose to be a place to advance science and exchange astronomical information and findings I hope we can all keep that in mind when we post comments in the future Bob Moore Bob Moore Commerce CRG - Salt Lake City office 175 East 400 South, Suite 700 Salt Lake City, Utah 84111 Direct: 801-303-5418 Main: 801-322-2000 Fax: 801-322-2040 BMoore(a)commercecrg.com www.commercecrg.com * * * * * * * * * * * NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachment contain confidential information that may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not review, retransmit, print, copy, use or disseminate it. Please immediately notify me by return e-mail and delete it. If this e-mail contains a forwarded e-mail or is a reply to a prior e-mail, the contents may not have been produced by the sender and therefore we are not responsible for its contents. It is the recipient's responsibility to take measures to ensure that this e-mail is virus free, and no responsibility is accepted by the author or Commerce CRG for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use. -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of daniel turner Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 12:36 PM To: Utah Astronomy Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Advice on Telrad Placement Ann: This is a hobby. It's supposed to be fun. Find your own happiness and let others find their's if they can. How a telescope looks has nothing to do with what you can see in the eyepiece. We come together to share our views of the sky, not to make a fashion statment. DT --- On Sun, 10/19/08, zaurak(a)digis.net <zaurak(a)digis.net> wrote: > From: zaurak(a)digis.net <zaurak(a)digis.net> > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Advice on Telrad Placement > To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 10:19 AM > Yes Ann, A bungee cord looks cheap and tacky, you can stop > wondering. :) > > --- ann(a)annhouse.org wrote: > > From: "Ann House" <ann(a)annhouse.org> > To: "Utah Astronomy" > <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Advice on Telrad Placement > Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:02:33 -0600 > > I highly recommend the bungee cord. The only downside is > that I have had a > few people at star parties ask about the cost of my > telescope. It got me to > wondering if the bungee cord looks cheap or tacky... But it > works > beautifully. > > -A > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com > Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com > Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Advice on Telrad Placement
by zaurak＠digis.net 20 Oct '08

20 Oct '08

Yes Ann, A bungee cord looks cheap and tacky, you can stop wondering. :) --- ann(a)annhouse.org wrote: From: "Ann House" <ann(a)annhouse.org> To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Advice on Telrad Placement Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:02:33 -0600 I highly recommend the bungee cord. The only downside is that I have had a few people at star parties ask about the cost of my telescope. It got me to wondering if the bungee cord looks cheap or tacky... But it works beautifully. -A _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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Nat Geo on light pollution
by Patrick Wiggins 19 Oct '08

19 Oct '08

The latest issue of National Geographic magazine showed up in my mailbox yesterday. The cover story is about light pollution. I'd like to think that if Nat Geo is giving the problem that kind of coverage it's finally going mainstream. patrick

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Scope for sale
by Patrick Wiggins 19 Oct '08

19 Oct '08

Siegfried asked me to get the word out about this. patrick From: Rex Biggers Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 10:00 AM To: ziggy943(a)xmission.com Subject: Rex Biggers (nephew of the Daniels) Orion XT12 Intelliscope Siegfried, Considering the upgrades on the telescope, I would be willing to let it go for $765. That would be a 15% reduction or $135 off in value from the current stock model price (minus flocking, baffling and the telrad) which is also included in the offer. (It would be about 30% less than what I paid). The price for the XT12 dropped when Orion recently came out with their new XX12. I paid around $1,100+ last Christmas even though it is now listed at $899 new. As I mentioned, the flocking, baffling and Telrad were all affixed with velcro and can each be easily removed if desired. I will also throw in a laser collimator. Since the time the telescope was purchased last Christmas it has only been used approximately three or four times. I've added a link to a website with more information. I also have a few eyepieces left that I would be willing to sell at reasonable prices. I've already sold the better eyepieces (televue nagler type 6). http://www.telescope.com/control/product/~category_id=dobsonians/ ~pcategory=telescopes/~product_id=09709?id=cadf Thanks, Rex biggrex(a)gmail.com

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Advice on Telrad Placement
by Jay Eads 19 Oct '08

19 Oct '08

I tried the bungee cords this afternoon and they worked really well. The other item that worked well were the Assorted cable plastic ties, but I like how the bungee cords softness go against the tube and the mount so bungee it is until the day comes when I want to do a permanent mounts. On a different note and I don't want to open another thread I have an XT 8 and XT 6 and a 2006 Nissan Altima. They fit in the trunk/back seat with the back seat down but in transporting them (I cannot afford a case for them until Jan or Feb) I usually wrap them up in a blanket so they don't bang around. Anyone have ideas until I get a case for each of them on the best way to transport them safely in a car? On 2008-10-19 21:26, zaurak wrote: > Isn't a bungee cord a fashion statement? I think your telescope is quite fashionable Dan. > > If it works is the most important. Each year at Riverside they give the Clifford T Holmes Award that recognizes people for finding atsronomical uses for common junk. > Onetime Cliffford Holmes was picking up what some one dumped, at the roadside, because he found the junk useful in his ATM Hobby. The Highway Patrol did not believe his story and gave him a ticket for illegal dumping. > > --- outwest112@??? wrote: > > From: daniel turner <outwest112@???> > To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy@???> > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Advice on Telrad Placement > Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:35:59 -0700 (PDT) > > Ann: > > This is a hobby. It's supposed to be fun. Find your own happiness and let others find their's if they can. How a telescope looks has nothing to do with what you can see in the eyepiece. We come together to share our views of the sky, not to make a fashion statment. > > DT > > > --- On Sun, 10/19/08, zaurak@??? <zaurak@???> wrote: > > > From: zaurak@??? <zaurak@???> > > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Advice on Telrad Placement > > To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy@???> > > Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 10:19 AM > > Yes Ann, A bungee cord looks cheap and tacky, you can stop > > wondering. :) > > > > --- ann@??? wrote: > > > > From: "Ann House" <ann@???> > > To: "Utah Astronomy" > > <utah-astronomy@???> > > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Advice on Telrad Placement > > Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:02:33 -0600 > > > > I highly recommend the bungee cord. The only downside is > > that I have had a > > few people at star parties ask about the cost of my > > telescope. It got me to > > wondering if the bungee cord looks cheap or tacky... But it > > works > > beautifully. > > > > -A > > _______________________________________________ > > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > > Utah-Astronomy@??? > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com > > Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > > Utah-Astronomy@??? > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com > > Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com > > > > > >

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Advice on Telrad Placement
by zaurak＠digis.net 19 Oct '08

19 Oct '08

Isn't a bungee cord a fashion statement? I think your telescope is quite fashionable Dan. If it works is the most important. Each year at Riverside they give the Clifford T Holmes Award that recognizes people for finding atsronomical uses for common junk. Onetime Cliffford Holmes was picking up what some one dumped, at the roadside, because he found the junk useful in his ATM Hobby. The Highway Patrol did not believe his story and gave him a ticket for illegal dumping. --- outwest112(a)yahoo.com wrote: From: daniel turner <outwest112(a)yahoo.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Advice on Telrad Placement Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Ann: This is a hobby. It's supposed to be fun. Find your own happiness and let others find their's if they can. How a telescope looks has nothing to do with what you can see in the eyepiece. We come together to share our views of the sky, not to make a fashion statment. DT --- On Sun, 10/19/08, zaurak(a)digis.net <zaurak(a)digis.net> wrote: > From: zaurak(a)digis.net <zaurak(a)digis.net> > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Advice on Telrad Placement > To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 10:19 AM > Yes Ann, A bungee cord looks cheap and tacky, you can stop > wondering. :) > > --- ann(a)annhouse.org wrote: > > From: "Ann House" <ann(a)annhouse.org> > To: "Utah Astronomy" > <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Advice on Telrad Placement > Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:02:33 -0600 > > I highly recommend the bungee cord. The only downside is > that I have had a > few people at star parties ask about the cost of my > telescope. It got me to > wondering if the bungee cord looks cheap or tacky... But it > works > beautifully. > > -A > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com > Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com > Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://gallery.utahastronomy.com Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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Advice on Telrad Placement
by Jay Eads 19 Oct '08

19 Oct '08

I received a telrad with my XT 8 and I am trying to decide where to place it. I have a disc in my low back (L5 and S1) that is deteriorating and from time to time, my back can go out. Someone has recommended a telrad riser though I haven't seen them at any Star Party's I've attended. Here is what I have done and what I am thinking. I am using black electrical tape to try different positions on the scope. I've come down to these options: 1. I've seen the Finderscope removed and the telrad mounted there. I have enjoyed the telrad when I haven't been able to successful star hop, but find I really like star hopping to find my objects. 2. Since I like star hopping, I've seen the telrad mounted either up near the top and to left of the finder or between the finder and the eyepiece. I have liked it up higher as it is easier on the back. 3. Suggestions based on your long experience would be helpful and appreciated. On another note I have a question for recommendations for transporting the XT 8 or XT 6 that I have to a Star Party or to a dark sky spot?I don't own a truck or SUV only a 2006 Nissan Altima; each scope will fit with the seat down and my 14 year old son in the back holding them. I don't have the money until Jan/Feb next year for a case (unless I get one as a gift at Christmas) for either scope so any suggestions what to wrap them up in during transport (a blanket?)? Also, one last thing. On Friday morning I got up at 3:30 and got set up and around 4:20 started observing and was looking at M42/43. After sketching it I went on to a few other items like Sigma Orionis and M41. After sketching M41 I went back to M42/43 for its beauty and splendor had really blown me away (sorry, newbie here). This time though as I looked at it in low power I could discern a greenish blue and greenish gray color to the nebula that was stronger near the Trapezium and fainter as I went out from the four stars. My question is has anyone else ever seen that greenish color before and is that possible or am I just seeing things? Usually deep sky objects to me have been pretty much white and grey.

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