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beautiful meteor
by Thomas Sevcik 03 Apr '06

03 Apr '06

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Incoming!
by diveboss＠xmission.com 27 Oct '05

27 Oct '05

NASA Science News for September 3, 2004 On September 8th, a daylight fireball will streak across the western United States. It's Genesis, returning samples of the Sun to Earth. FULL STORY at http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/03sep_genesisreentry.htm?list1153573

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Observing Report from the Gravel Pit
by UTAHDEB＠aol.com 24 Feb '05

24 Feb '05

Are there any good hiking trails up there? I need to take advantage of that fresh air. Debbie

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Today's NASA Briefing
by Patrick Wiggins 03 Feb '05

03 Feb '05

Two things of note out of today's briefing. 1) The briefer noted they have received 132 reports of found debris in CA, 130 in AZ and 9 in NM but that none had been confirmed. He made no mention of Utah. 2) The picture mentioned in the Aviation Week article was shown. Some of the media has been playing it up as being "hi resolution". Don't know that I'd call it hi-res but it does show the shape of the orbiter and maybe there's "something" with the left wing but the image is so pixcelated it's hard to say for sure. No doubt the picture will be all over the TV tonight.

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Re: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Earth Change?
by astrodeb＠charter.net 02 Jan '05

02 Jan '05

I was watching the History Channel last night and they were talking about the tsunamis that hit near Hilo, HI. They established warning systems after the 1946 disaster but they "cried wolf" too many times with too many drills and sirens. When the 1960 tsunami came, people actually went out to the beach to look at the wave. And some surfers tried to surf the tsunami wave! I guess people need to be educated about deadly effects of tsunamis. Debbie > > From: diveboss(a)xmission.com > Date: 2004/12/30 Thu PM 04:49:58 MST > To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Earth Change? > > I'm the proud daddy of a brand spanking new little golden retriever puppy > who has yet to provide me ANY WARNING when it comes to 'liquid' type > disasters. hopefully she will develope that sense loooong before the one we > will rely on for detecting natural disasters. ;) > > I was stationed at Kaneohe Marine Corps Air Station for a couple years and > it seemed to me that every other palm tree housed a warning siren. In the > two years I was there, the Island of Oahu held perhaps a half dozen drills > to test the system. > > As far as this event changing the Earth, I think we would have heard from > the big observatories by now. It was reported that seismic stations around > the globe detected the Earthquake, which to some scientists suggested that > the event could have global consequences. Others said that the event was an > almost indistinguishable tap. One said it had the force of 23,000 Hiroshima > size Atomic bombs. With so many different opinions and views from the > science community, I would have to conclude that all is well... > > Guy > > > Quoting Cynthia Blue <leviblue(a)utahdogs.com>: > > > Yeah I agree... I figure if we get hit by an earthquake in the middle of > > the night, hopefully the animals will warn us before hand so our little > > brick house won't cumble and crush us all... =) > > > > > > astrodeb(a)charter.net wrote: > > > > >We need to watch our animals more closely. It seems the animals had a > > sixth sense about the coming disaster and fled to higher ground before > > the tsanami hit the beaches. > > >They reported very small animal causualties. > > >I've heard about strange behaviors of animals before earthquakes as > > well. > > > > > >Debbie > > > > > > > > >>From: Michael Carnes <moogiebird(a)earthlink.net> > > >>Date: 2004/12/30 Thu PM 01:49:55 MST > > >>To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > >>Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Earth Change? > > >> > > >>It's a whole different scale. Honolulu might have problems, but the > > >>rest of the cities are relatively small, so you'd stand a decent chance > > >>of moving the population with a few hours' notice. You don't have to > > >>go too far in most cases to pick up sufficient altitude. And of course > > >>there's a reasonable amount of civic planning, training and drills. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>But those warning sirens/stations... it seems to me that if the > > >>>Pacific Coast has all of 6 hours warning (not sure how much time they > > >>>would have though), there would be mass hysteria, and the coastal > > >>>cities are so huge, that evacuation wouldn't reasonably happen. > > >>>Cyn > > >>> > > >>> > > >>_______________________________________________ > > >>Utah-Astronomy mailing list > > >>Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > > >>http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > > >>Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Utah-Astronomy mailing list > > >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > > >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > > >Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > CH Pembroke Faded Glory NA NAJ NAC NAJ TN-N > > Elsinore Lucilla Aurelius CGC > > Angel Pumpkin Spice Lady CGC > > Spirit Chasers Spice > > > > http://www.utahdogs.com > > http://www.cynthiablue.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com >

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Re: Hello
by Richard Tenney 31 Dec '04

31 Dec '04

Hey Matt, Boy that's a switch, moving from Laguna Beach to such a small town! Hope the adjustment goes well; you certainly picked the right place for darker skies. It's close to where the locals consider one of the best spots in No. Utah -- Wolf Creek summit. I look forward to meeting you and seeing your scopes. SLAS's Lowell Lyon also has a 20-inch Obsession, and he sometimes makes it up there. I personally have no experience with observatories, but others locally do, so I'm copying this reply to the local astro lists and see what kinds of responses you get. Your last name is also Francis? We may be related; my mom's maiden name is Francis (she grew up in Lake Shore/Springville area). I too grew up in So. California (San Diego area). Anyway, welcome to Utah; you'll find a lot of terrific photon-loving folks here. Regards, Rich --- Matt <mattoid(a)allwest.net> wrote: > Hi Rich, > > Congratulations on a very nice website! I really > like the personal touch of > showing photos of your members (of which I am now > one also!) with their > telescopes! > > My wife and I recently moved to Francis Utah from > Laguna Beach California. > I'm used to trailering my telescopes for 2.5 hours > to the Anza Borrego > desert for clear, dark skies. About half of the > time I set up camp in the > dry lake bed there, high altitude clouds would form > or the wind would pick > up. Still, I did enjoy many beautiful nights there > under the canopy of > stars. > > My telescopes (a 20 inch Obsession reflector and a > Meade 12 inch SCT with > SBIG ccd) are still in the trailer as we are still > unpacking and finishing > up moving in. I am looking forward to building an > observatory in my > backyard this spring and I was wondering if any of > you have any experience > with this. I want to collect as much information > and input as possible > before I begin construction. Currently I am > thinking I will build a large > shed with a roll off roof. > > Thanks for the input! > > Matt Francis > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo

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RE: [Utah-astronomy] Earth Change?
by David Dunn 30 Dec '04

30 Dec '04

My wife told me she had heard that yesterday. I didn't think it was true but here is a report from CNN. Scientists: Quake may have made Earth wobble Wednesday, December 29, 2004 Posted: 2:44 PM EST (1944 GMT) Scientists believe that a shift of mass toward the Earth's center during the quake caused the planet to spin 3 microseconds faster and to tilt about an inch on its axis. RELATED * Tsunami death toll tops 71,000 * Scientists: Quake shifts islands * Special Report: Waves of destruction LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- The deadly Asian earthquake may have permanently accelerated the Earth's rotation, shortening days by a fraction of a second and caused the planet to wobble on its axis, U.S. scientists said Tuesday. Richard Gross, a geophysicist with NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in California, theorized that a shift of mass toward the Earth's center during the quake Sunday caused the planet to spin 3 microseconds, or millionths of a second, faster and to tilt about an inch on its axis. When one huge tectonic plate beneath the Indian Ocean was forced below the edge of another "it had the effect of making the Earth more compact and spinning faster," Gross said. Gross said changes predicted by his model probably are too minuscule to be detected by a global positioning satellite network that routinely measures changes in Earth's spin, but said the data may reveal a slight wobble. The Earth's poles travel a circular path that normally varies by about 33 feet , so an added wobble of an inch is unlikely to cause long-term effects, he said. "That continual motion is just used to changing," Gross said. "The rotation is not actually that precise. The Earth does slow down and change its rate of rotation." When those tiny variations accumulate, planetary scientists must add a "leap second" to the end of a year, something that has not been done in many years, Gross said. Scientists have long theorized that changes on the Earth's surface such as tide and groundwater shifts and weather could affect its spin but they have not had precise measurements to prove it, Caltech seismologist Hiroo Kanamori said. "Even for a very large event, the effect is very small," Kanamori said. "It's very difficult to change the rotation rate substantially." -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-bounces+david.dunn=albertsons.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces+david.dunn=albertsons.com@mailman.xmissio n.com] On Behalf Of Cynthia Blue Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 8:03 AM To: Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Earth Change? Okay... a fellow coworker of mine is stating that he has heard that the Earth's rotation has sped up, and the tilt has changed, because of the earthquake and resulting Tsunami that recently happened. I haven't surfed the web yet looking for facts, but I asked him where he found this info, was it on the Onion? =) Anywhoo... just thought I'd pose the question to you guys. Heard anything? ;) Cyn -- CH Pembroke Faded Glory NA NAJ NAC NAJ TN-N Elsinore Lucilla Aurelius CGC Angel Pumpkin Spice Lady CGC Spirit Chasers Spice http://www.utahdogs.com http://www.cynthiablue.net _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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Re: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Earth Change?
by astrodeb＠charter.net 30 Dec '04

30 Dec '04

We need to watch our animals more closely. It seems the animals had a sixth sense about the coming disaster and fled to higher ground before the tsanami hit the beaches. They reported very small animal causualties. I've heard about strange behaviors of animals before earthquakes as well. Debbie > > From: Michael Carnes <moogiebird(a)earthlink.net> > Date: 2004/12/30 Thu PM 01:49:55 MST > To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Earth Change? > > It's a whole different scale. Honolulu might have problems, but the > rest of the cities are relatively small, so you'd stand a decent chance > of moving the population with a few hours' notice. You don't have to > go too far in most cases to pick up sufficient altitude. And of course > there's a reasonable amount of civic planning, training and drills. > > > But those warning sirens/stations... it seems to me that if the > > Pacific Coast has all of 6 hours warning (not sure how much time they > > would have though), there would be mass hysteria, and the coastal > > cities are so huge, that evacuation wouldn't reasonably happen. > > Cyn > > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com >

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RE: [Utah-astronomy] Earth Change?
by Lambert, Aaron 30 Dec '04

30 Dec '04

>From what I have read, that Canary Islands mega-tsunami stuff is more hype than science. Read this tsunami FAQ put together by the International Tsunami Information Center http://www.prh.noaa.gov/itic/library/about_tsu/faqs.html. Information on the Canary Island situation is at the bottom. Aaron > -----Original Message----- > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Earth Change? > > > Actually, if i remember correctly, the Hilo Tsunami (circa > 1930's?) was > actually a "mega-tsunami". So named, because they are not cause my > earthquakes and waves, but because of the displacement caused > by massive > land slides. That one I believe was actually caused by a landslide in > the Alutian islands in Alaska. > > Interesting note along those lines.... The Canary islands, will (yes, > will) cause one of these mega-tsunamis which will (yes, will) cause a > 50-100 foot wave, which will (yes, unfortunately, will) wipe out the > majority of the eastern US coast. > > http://www.sibelle.info/oped25.htm > > JH.

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Earth Change?
by Cynthia Blue 30 Dec '04

30 Dec '04

Okay... a fellow coworker of mine is stating that he has heard that the Earth's rotation has sped up, and the tilt has changed, because of the earthquake and resulting Tsunami that recently happened. I haven't surfed the web yet looking for facts, but I asked him where he found this info, was it on the Onion? =) Anywhoo... just thought I'd pose the question to you guys. Heard anything? ;) Cyn -- CH Pembroke Faded Glory NA NAJ NAC NAJ TN-N Elsinore Lucilla Aurelius CGC Angel Pumpkin Spice Lady CGC Spirit Chasers Spice http://www.utahdogs.com http://www.cynthiablue.net

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