So then, who wants to argue on who to piss off? Gamers (PCM) or Everyone else with a V92 modem? (no PCM, faster negotiation time) ...or is there anything that can be done perhaps at the client side to say "no PCM for me". SMT Scott M. Trautman Global Dialog Internet 608-240-4638,4637fax 2810 Crossroads, STE LL2 Madison WI 53718 http://www.gdinet.com <http://www.gdinet.com/>

-----Original Message----- From: Randy Cosby [mailto:dcosby@infowest.com] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:20 AM To: usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com Subject: RE: [USR-TC] V92 connect times: no different than V90?

V.92 fast connection improvements are supposed to be more than offset by the extra time it takes to negotiate upstream pcm. I seem to recall seeing a doc from 3com about that. I'll have to dig it up.

Randy

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-----Original Message----- From: usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:usr-tc-admin@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Scott Trautman Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 7:46 AM To: usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com Subject: [USR-TC] V92 connect times: no different than V90?

I have a couple folks testing V92. I have the latest V92 DSP code (maintenance release). I'm not seeing one iota of difference in any of the parameters, anywhere. Not connect speed, not throughput, not anything that I've been able to see so far.

Connect times: V92 26s V90 27s V90 27s V92 22s V92 23s V90 24s

Connect times was the one thing I really WAS hoping/believing would improve.

<what we have gleaned from marketing materials> What will V92 do for me? Very simply, V92 will shorten the time it takes to make a connection by remembering ("training") the phone line characteristics and storing them for later usage. Typically, the modem handshake (all that noise you hear) takes from 25 to 27 seconds. Surveys indicate that people are quite irritated at this length of time. V92 will cut the modem handshake time in half for most calls, a significant improvement.

Am I missing something here?

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