(usr-tc) assigning IP pools
I wanted to double-check this before I did all the tedious DNS entries. I want to take an entire class C and split it between 2 chassis. The ARC and NMC from these chassis will have IPs from outside this class C. CHASSIS 1: 7 x 23/DSP = xxx.xxx.xxx.1 - xxx.xxx.xxx.161 CHASSIS 2: 4 x 23/DSP = xxx.xxx.xxx.162 - xxx.xxx.xxx.253 Is this useable/acceptible? Thanks, -- Kirk Mitchell-General Manager mitch@keyconn.net Keystone Connect Unlock Your World Altoona, PA 814-941-5000 http://www.keyconn.net - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
Has anyone tried the TC VoIP stuff? I think it's called CommWorks. Any comments? Allen - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
Thus spake Allen Marsalis
Has anyone tried the TC VoIP stuff? I think it's called CommWorks. Any comments?
I believe it runs on NT, right? Which is enough to ensure that I won't ever try it. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
Jeff wrote: "I believe it runs on NT, right? Which is enough to ensure that I won't ever try it." A good mix of NT and Unix (Linux) makes the best overall systems. IMHO ;-) Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Mcadams To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, November 27, 1999 7:39 PM Subject: Re: (usr-tc) CommWorks Thus spake Allen Marsalis
Has anyone tried the TC VoIP stuff? I think it's called CommWorks. Any comments?
I believe it runs on NT, right? Which is enough to ensure that I won't ever try it. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
Thus spake Ed
Jeff wrote: "I believe it runs on NT, right? Which is enough to ensure that I won't ever try it."
A good mix of NT and Unix (Linux) makes the best overall systems. IMHO ;-)
I won't use NT anywhere that's even close to mission critical. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
The ONE single thing that makes NT unuseable in critical applications is that you need to reboot it to make any system changes. Need to re-number a nic? Reboot. Need to upgrade some software? Reboot. The definition of mission critical would include "Maximum uptime". Needing to reboot to change a minor configuration item or add software is unbelievable. It's 1999 MS, can you please make an OS that you don't need to turn off in order to make a change. I run LINUX..... problem solved! Paul Farber Farber Technology farber@admin.f-tech.net Ph 570-628-5303 Fax 570-628-5545 On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, Jeff Mcadams wrote:
Thus spake Ed
Jeff wrote: "I believe it runs on NT, right? Which is enough to ensure that I won't ever try it."
A good mix of NT and Unix (Linux) makes the best overall systems. IMHO ;-)
I won't use NT anywhere that's even close to mission critical. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456
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Windows 2000 RC2 requires reboot only on major changes. IP and software changes need no reboot. So yes that's coming. We are fairly impressed by the changes. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: farber@admin.f-tech.net To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Sent: Sunday, November 28, 1999 1:28 PM Subject: Re: (usr-tc) CommWorks The ONE single thing that makes NT unuseable in critical applications is that you need to reboot it to make any system changes. Need to re-number a nic? Reboot. Need to upgrade some software? Reboot. The definition of mission critical would include "Maximum uptime". Needing to reboot to change a minor configuration item or add software is unbelievable. It's 1999 MS, can you please make an OS that you don't need to turn off in order to make a change. I run LINUX..... problem solved! Paul Farber Farber Technology farber@admin.f-tech.net Ph 570-628-5303 Fax 570-628-5545 On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, Jeff Mcadams wrote:
Thus spake Ed
Jeff wrote: "I believe it runs on NT, right? Which is enough to ensure that I won't ever try it."
A good mix of NT and Unix (Linux) makes the best overall systems. IMHO ;-)
I won't use NT anywhere that's even close to mission critical. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456
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Operating System discussions tend to turn into religious arguments, and it's really really old, so can we end this here? :) I run Win2K RC2 Pro (aka workstation, not server) at home, but I also run my ISP on FreeBSD, and run FreeBSD, MacOS, NeXTSTEP and even OpenVMS/VAX and a little Linux at home, so... they're all good in their own ways. Mike Andrews (MA12) * mandrews@dcr.net * http://www.bit0.com/ VP, sysadmin, & network guy, Digital Crescent Inc, Frankfort KY Internet services for Frankfort, Lawrenceburg, Owenton, & Shelbyville "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine." -- RFC 1925 On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, Ed wrote:
Windows 2000 RC2 requires reboot only on major changes. IP and software changes need no reboot. So yes that's coming.
We are fairly impressed by the changes.
Ed
----- Original Message ----- From: farber@admin.f-tech.net To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Sent: Sunday, November 28, 1999 1:28 PM Subject: Re: (usr-tc) CommWorks
The ONE single thing that makes NT unuseable in critical applications is that you need to reboot it to make any system changes.
Need to re-number a nic? Reboot.
Need to upgrade some software? Reboot.
The definition of mission critical would include "Maximum uptime". Needing to reboot to change a minor configuration item or add software is unbelievable.
It's 1999 MS, can you please make an OS that you don't need to turn off in order to make a change.
I run LINUX..... problem solved!
Paul Farber Farber Technology farber@admin.f-tech.net Ph 570-628-5303 Fax 570-628-5545
On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, Jeff Mcadams wrote:
Thus spake Ed
Jeff wrote: "I believe it runs on NT, right? Which is enough to ensure that I won't ever try it."
A good mix of NT and Unix (Linux) makes the best overall systems. IMHO ;-)
I won't use NT anywhere that's even close to mission critical. -- Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456
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On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, Mike Andrews wrote:
Operating System discussions tend to turn into religious arguments, and it's really really old, so can we end this here? :) I run Win2K RC2 Pro (aka workstation, not server) at home, but I also run my ISP on FreeBSD, and run FreeBSD, MacOS, NeXTSTEP and even OpenVMS/VAX and a little Linux at home, so... they're all good in their own ways.
Amen to that, brother. Kindest regards, Mark -- Mark Lovell Cave Rock Software Ltd / Cave Rock Internet 0800 GETONLINE Phone: +64 3 3664242 (0800 438665) Fax: +64 3 3665478 Unit 1a 492 Moorhouse Ave, PO Box 22488, Christchurch, New Zealand "Happiness is a belt fed weapon" - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
At 01:28 PM 11/28/99 -0500, you wrote:
The definition of mission critical would include "Maximum uptime". Needing to reboot to change a minor configuration item or add software is unbelievable.
Both of my NT boxes have over 99.99% uptime over the last 18 months or so. That averages somewhere around 1 minute down per month. I would think that qualifies as "Maximum uptime" :) -- Kirk Mitchell-General Manager mitch@keyconn.net Keystone Connect Unlock Your World Altoona, PA 814-941-5000 http://www.keyconn.net - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
Folks, Can we avoid starting yet another OS war here ? Jeff Binkley ASA Network Computing U>The ONE single thing that makes NT unuseable in critical applications U>is that you need to reboot it to make any system changes. U>Need to re-number a nic? Reboot. U>Need to upgrade some software? Reboot. U>The definition of mission critical would include "Maximum uptime". U>Needing to reboot to change a minor configuration item or add software U>is unbelievable. U>It's 1999 MS, can you please make an OS that you don't need to turn U>off in order to make a change. U>I run LINUX..... problem solved! U>Paul Farber U>Farber Technology U>farber@admin.f-tech.net U>Ph 570-628-5303 U>Fax 570-628-5545 U>On Sun, 28 Nov 1999, Jeff Mcadams wrote: U>> Thus spake Ed U>> >Jeff wrote: "I believe it runs on NT, right? Which is enough to U>> >ensure that I won't ever try it." U>> >A good mix of NT and Unix (Linux) makes the best overall systems. U>> IMHO ;-) U>> I won't use NT anywhere that's even close to mission critical. U>> -- U>> Jeff McAdams Email: jeffm@iglou.com U>> Head Network Administrator Voice: (502) 966-3848 U>> IgLou Internet Services (800) 436-4456 U>> - U>> To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" U>> with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. U>> For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages U>> send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your U>> message. U>- U> To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" U> with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. U> For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send U> "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message. CMPQwk 1.42 9999 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
At 01:28 PM 11/28/1999 -0500, you wrote:
Need to re-number a nic? Reboot.
SP5 and 6 address this issue. No more reboots for adding IPs, etc. Not preaching NT, just straightening facts. -- Brice Ligget Chief Operations Officer Two Alpha Net is a complete Internet Service Provider based in Billings Montana. "Connect to the world" 406 628 1500 http://www.twoalpha.net - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
At 07:39 PM 11/27/99 -0500, Jeff Mcadams wrote:
Thus spake Allen Marsalis
Has anyone tried the TC VoIP stuff? I think it's called CommWorks. Any comments?
I believe it runs on NT, right? Which is enough to ensure that I won't ever try it.
Yes it runs on the edgeserver which unfortunately means NT, for the most part.. But if it didn't use NT and all the prewritten telephony code, I doubt 3com could get it out the door! (under unix, pilgrim, whatever) And I doubt it's any less stable than if it were 100% 3com code.. Anyway, what about just the concepts of: Internet Call Waiting - Virtual second line. Customers can make and receive phone calls while online. Anyone see any demand for this? We haven't. Telephony enhanced e-commerce (Web based call centers) - Click-and-talk buttons let customers reach Web merchants through dedicated, encrypted connections. Little demand there too I imagine. Long-distance telephone service - deliver phone to phone service between your pops on existing facilities. This is really the only one I'm interested in. Especially if we can use existing hardware and links. I have no idea what this stuff costs but it shouldn't be more than a new edgeserver w/NT, and some software... Allen - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
participants (9)
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Allen Marsalis -
Brice Ligget -
Ed -
farber＠admin.f-tech.net -
Jeff Mcadams -
jeff.binkley＠asacomp.com -
K Mitchell -
Mark Lovell -
Mike Andrews