RE: (usr-tc) CLID, DNIS , ANIS , Caller ID ?
CLID (calling line ID or caller ID) is what you typically see as the number they dialed from. For some reason, 3Com refers to this as ANI but true ANI (unblockable CLID) is only available on FGD trunks and is used by telcos for billing purposes (for example, it's how the 10-10-321 people know to bill you for a long distance call even when you have an unlisted number. DNIS is the number they dialed to get to your trunk group and is frequently referred to (by our telco at least) as "billed number".
-----Original Message----- From: mft [mailto:tsaim@mft.com] Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 1:06 AM To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Subject: (usr-tc) CLID, DNIS , ANIS , Caller ID ?
Hi,
What is the difference bet. CLID (calling Line ID), DNIS, ANIS, Caller ID. ?
Does TCH support all of them ?
Basically, I am looking for the carrier be able to pass TCH the following info (we have T1/PRI) (a) which number the user called (b) what is the phone number that the user calling in from ? (thier phone number )
Thanks
Meng
Meng Tsai, tsaim@mft.com , MFT http://www.mft.com Tel: 718-888-0098 Fax: 718-762-0939
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Hi Matthew, Thanks for your help. We have T1/PRI from the telco into the TCH (quad. digital modem and NetServer card). Can such TCH support (, can retrieve) *both* Caller ID and DNIS (based upon your definition)? Thanks again in adv. Meng ----- Original Message ----- From: Stainforth, Matthew <MatthewS@staff.brunnet.net> To: <usr-tc@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 7:25 AM Subject: RE: (usr-tc) CLID, DNIS , ANIS , Caller ID ?
CLID (calling line ID or caller ID) is what you typically see as the
number
they dialed from. For some reason, 3Com refers to this as ANI but true ANI (unblockable CLID) is only available on FGD trunks and is used by telcos for billing purposes (for example, it's how the 10-10-321 people know to bill you for a long distance call even when you have an unlisted number. DNIS is the number they dialed to get to your trunk group and is frequently referred to (by our telco at least) as "billed number".
-----Original Message----- From: mft [mailto:tsaim@mft.com] Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 1:06 AM To: usr-tc@lists.xmission.com Subject: (usr-tc) CLID, DNIS , ANIS , Caller ID ?
Hi,
What is the difference bet. CLID (calling Line ID), DNIS, ANIS, Caller ID. ?
Does TCH support all of them ?
Basically, I am looking for the carrier be able to pass TCH the following info (we have T1/PRI) (a) which number the user called (b) what is the phone number that the user calling in from ? (thier phone number )
Thanks
Meng
Meng Tsai, tsaim@mft.com , MFT http://www.mft.com Tel: 718-888-0098 Fax: 718-762-0939
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Thanks for your help. We have T1/PRI from the telco into the TCH (quad. digital modem and NetServer card).
Can such TCH support (, can retrieve) *both* Caller ID and DNIS (based upon your definition)?
Yes. I can, and does (here anyway). We make extensive use of DNIS, and use CLID to trip up dishonest customers... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bob Purdon, Ground Floor, Marine Board Building Technical Manager (Tas/Vic), 1 Franklin Wharf, Tas 7000 Southern Internet Services. +61 (3) 6234 7444 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
Somewhat related question: While we get both ANI and DNIS info on our PRI's just fine, we're about to order channelized T1 for the first time. (We have to, because PRI won't be available until May 2000 in that city, and Bellsouth's "extended reach PRI" is not at all cost effective for this. Bleah.) Am I going to have problems doing both ANI and DNIS at the same time on a (trunk side) channelized T1? Any other potential gotchas for someone used to PRI? :) Aside from ordering it with the right parameters (E&M type 2, wink start, wink ack, probably will try to get B8ZS instead of AMI...) Mike Andrews (MA12) * mandrews@dcr.net * http://www.bit0.com/ VP, sysadmin, & network guy, Digital Crescent Inc, Frankfort KY Internet services for Frankfort, Lawrenceburg, Owenton, & Shelbyville "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine." -- RFC 1925 On Sat, 27 Nov 1999, Bob Purdon (Lists) wrote:
Thanks for your help. We have T1/PRI from the telco into the TCH (quad. digital modem and NetServer card).
Can such TCH support (, can retrieve) *both* Caller ID and DNIS (based upon your definition)?
Yes. I can, and does (here anyway). We make extensive use of DNIS, and use CLID to trip up dishonest customers...
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Mike Andrews wrote:
Somewhat related question:
While we get both ANI and DNIS info on our PRI's just fine, we're about to order channelized T1 for the first time. (We have to, because PRI won't be available until May 2000 in that city, and Bellsouth's "extended reach PRI" is not at all cost effective for this. Bleah.)
Am I going to have problems doing both ANI and DNIS at the same time on a (trunk side) channelized T1?
No, but you have to order the line this way, most of the RBOCs call this Feature Group D. But since we're in a SS7 world getting the LEC to tone down to you can be tricky since many switches are not ordered with tone generators these days.
Any other potential gotchas for someone used to PRI? :) Aside from ordering it with the right parameters (E&M type 2, wink start, wink ack, probably will try to get B8ZS instead of AMI...)
Sometimes bringing them up can be funky, mostly trial and error if they don't rock-n-roll with the default settings, but for the most part they work. I'd definitely ask for B8ZS and ESF, since most of their network probably runs that way to begin with. -Ron GLISnet, Inc. +1 810/939.9885 - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Ronald Kushner wrote:
Mike Andrews wrote:
Somewhat related question:
While we get both ANI and DNIS info on our PRI's just fine, we're about to order channelized T1 for the first time. (We have to, because PRI won't be available until May 2000 in that city, and Bellsouth's "extended reach PRI" is not at all cost effective for this. Bleah.)
Am I going to have problems doing both ANI and DNIS at the same time on a (trunk side) channelized T1?
No, but you have to order the line this way, most of the RBOCs call this Feature Group D. But since we're in a SS7 world getting the LEC to tone down to you can be tricky since many switches are not ordered with tone generators these days.
FGD is 'equal access' inter CO trunking. 'Channelized' T1 is simply that. Thus, they are different and different rules apply. Bell can opt to send or not send ANI as they see fit (depending on their tariff in the relevant state), but they will certainly send DNIS. If you have the option, definately request both, and request both to be 10 digits.
Any other potential gotchas for someone used to PRI? :) Aside from ordering it with the right parameters (E&M type 2, wink start, wink ack, probably will try to get B8ZS instead of AMI...)
work. I'd definitely ask for B8ZS and ESF, since most of their network probably runs that way to begin with.
Agreed. -- Jeff Carneal - Sys Admin - Apex Internet jeff@apex.net http://www.apex.net (270) 442-5363 The opinions expressed above aren't really mine. They belong to someone else who also refuses to take responsibility for them. - To unsubscribe to usr-tc, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe usr-tc" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.
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